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Is business class worth it with two toddlers ?

429 replies

muaa · 09/06/2023 18:21

Would it make the journey better ? My DH absolutely refuses do go long haul with our 1 and 3 year olds.

Would flying business actually make it any easier ? The one year old would still be on one of our laps. The three year old would their own seat etc.

Has anyone done this ? It's so much more expensive and I don't want to do it, unless it will make a considerable difference.

OP posts:
Piglet89 · 09/06/2023 19:16

Hahaha I honestly couldn't care less about other people.

This one brief sentence encompasses all that’s wrong with modern parenting.

Coffeepot72 · 09/06/2023 19:17

Difficult one - but would anyone really want to spend their flight next to a screaming child?

WillyLows · 09/06/2023 19:17

lafado · 09/06/2023 19:16

@WillyLows this isn't a essential trip, OP wants to fly across the world for a holiday and ruin everyone else's journey and traumatize their children at the same time.

So? You honestly think people with young kids shouldn't travel?

Nothingisblackandwhite · 09/06/2023 19:18

lafado · 09/06/2023 18:46

Please don't book buisness class with young children, it will be a nightmare for all the people who have spent more for a relaxing flight. Maybe arrange a private plane if you can't handle your children in economy.

Maybe people who want t to be alone need to book a private plane ??

WillyLows · 09/06/2023 19:18

lafado · 09/06/2023 19:16

@WillyLows this isn't a essential trip, OP wants to fly across the world for a holiday and ruin everyone else's journey and traumatize their children at the same time.

Ruin everyone else's journey... traumatise the children...

Dramatic much?

Sundaystorm · 09/06/2023 19:18

Don’t do that to other passengers. We sat in front of baby Bonnie and her parents on the way to Spain recently. I don’t know what was worse, Bonnie’s constant crying or her mother’s three hour rendition of ‘you are my sunshine’. Absolutely painful.

Densol57 · 09/06/2023 19:18

I took my two boys to USA from when they were 11 months old and once or twice a year every year after that. They are now in their 20’s. They were brilliant plane passengers 😀

Coffeepot72 · 09/06/2023 19:19

So? You honestly think people with young kids shouldn't travel?

Not if they’re on my flight …. ha ha!!

kej567890 · 09/06/2023 19:19

lafado · 09/06/2023 18:46

Please don't book buisness class with young children, it will be a nightmare for all the people who have spent more for a relaxing flight. Maybe arrange a private plane if you can't handle your children in economy.

That's unfair. Children are less likely to cry when they can lie down to sleep or have extra space to move around.

OP, I'm all for travelling with kids and if you can do it in business then even better

Simonjt · 09/06/2023 19:21

We fly business class where we can with a seven year old and a 1 year old, our oldest has been flying since he was 18 months and we’ve never experienced an airline not allowing young children in business.

We did Canada business class last year with a seven year old and hmm, a ten month old. It’s much better, the baby has a decent amount of room (bassinette are tiny) and you room to eat your meal etc. They can also move around without the worry of them kicking the chair in front or knocking the person next to you while their sat on your lap as once on your lap there is very very little space between their feet and the seat in front.

OverTheCountryClub · 09/06/2023 19:21

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Toottooot · 09/06/2023 19:23

Just returned from an albeit short haul flight with Tui with no option of business class (ha ha) with a nearly 3 year old. When we landed the lady behind us said to me - if I’d seen you boarding I would have rolled my eyes and dreaded the flight but I’ve only just noticed now that you had a child. Not all geets on flights are feral and cause other passengers problems.

VivaVivaa · 09/06/2023 19:25

@lafado is your issue with toddlers in business class or on long haul flights full stop?

muaa · 09/06/2023 19:25

So basically, once you have kids, you are to stay home and never to enjoy nice things again. You are allowed to go to places where other kids are ( child friendly places ) but not to any other place.

Fancy restaurant ? No. Lovely hotel ? No. Business class flight ? No.

This is BS. You take your kid and get them to behave or you leave. Obviously you can't do that on a plane. However, I will try and book night flights anyway.

But I'm not hiding away because it might slightly inconvenience people to see my kids in a plane / on holiday / in a nice restaurant. If they miss behave, we leave, as we aren't animals. But nope, I'm not staying home just because you don't like looking at my kid. We all coexist. Maybe I don't like your drunk ugly loud Dave either, but I still need to deal with it sometimes.

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BodegaSushi · 09/06/2023 19:26

lafado · 09/06/2023 18:46

Please don't book buisness class with young children, it will be a nightmare for all the people who have spent more for a relaxing flight. Maybe arrange a private plane if you can't handle your children in economy.

😂

The worst people I ever encounter on flights are adults. OP is fine.

PollyThePixie · 09/06/2023 19:27

LegendsBeyond · 09/06/2023 19:16

Leave it until they’re older. No one wants toddlers in business class. Surely you can wait a few years for long haul travel. It isn’t a necessity.

I think you’d be surprised at how many people fly business with young children and how many people couldn’t care less there are children on board.

And let’s not forget there’s only a curtain separating economy and business and anything going on in economy can also be heard in business.

yaboreme · 09/06/2023 19:28

muaa · 09/06/2023 19:25

So basically, once you have kids, you are to stay home and never to enjoy nice things again. You are allowed to go to places where other kids are ( child friendly places ) but not to any other place.

Fancy restaurant ? No. Lovely hotel ? No. Business class flight ? No.

This is BS. You take your kid and get them to behave or you leave. Obviously you can't do that on a plane. However, I will try and book night flights anyway.

But I'm not hiding away because it might slightly inconvenience people to see my kids in a plane / on holiday / in a nice restaurant. If they miss behave, we leave, as we aren't animals. But nope, I'm not staying home just because you don't like looking at my kid. We all coexist. Maybe I don't like your drunk ugly loud Dave either, but I still need to deal with it sometimes.

Agreed!!

lafado · 09/06/2023 19:28

@VivaVivaa causing psychological harm to young children who don't understand the situation they are in and are upset as a result, for OP selfish completely unnecessary long haul holiday. The I'll do what I want and care about nobody but myself attitude, not my partner, my children or anyone else around me.

JanesBlond · 09/06/2023 19:28

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That’s a bit unfair. Most people who travel business class are doing it for, y’know, business - the point of having a more comfortable business cabin is so that you can either work on the plane or so you can sleep and arrive well-rested for meetings. Business travel isn’t enjoyable and it would be even worse having to turn up in a worse position because someone else was being a prize twat as you suggest.

standardduck · 09/06/2023 19:29

Wow. Some of the replies are really harsh.
Private plane because you have toddlers?!

OP has as much right to fly wherever she wants with her family as anyone else. Some of the most annoying passengers I met while traveling were loud, obnoxious adults. You never know who will be on the same flight as you.

Also, it's not traumatizing for young children to travel. I have no idea where some of these ideas are coming from.

WillyLows · 09/06/2023 19:29

Why are people in business more worthy of a peaceful flight? Genuine question...

PollyThePixie · 09/06/2023 19:30

JanesBlond · 09/06/2023 19:28

That’s a bit unfair. Most people who travel business class are doing it for, y’know, business - the point of having a more comfortable business cabin is so that you can either work on the plane or so you can sleep and arrive well-rested for meetings. Business travel isn’t enjoyable and it would be even worse having to turn up in a worse position because someone else was being a prize twat as you suggest.

People who are in the business class cabin are doing it for a multitude of reasons and the days of it being for those flying because they are on business are long since over.

lafado · 09/06/2023 19:30

@JanesBlond this is the problem, not only will these people inconvenience people, they will go out of their way to do it, by playing a loud cartoon on repeat and eating smelly food. This is why some airlines have removed the option.

muaa · 09/06/2023 19:30

WillyLows · 09/06/2023 19:29

Why are people in business more worthy of a peaceful flight? Genuine question...

Apparently they have more rights to peace because they paid more money...

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Robbiethedog · 09/06/2023 19:30

We've just come returned from a long haul trip flying business. The cabin wouldn't have worked with toddlers OP, so do check the cabin layout carefully. Our flight (Dream liner) had pods in a 1-2-1 herringbone arrangement. In the central 2, you'd be able to see each other, but nothing more. The only way to actually reach your children would be to walk to the front or back of the cabin and go up the other aisle if that makes sense. Anyone in the window seat couldn't even see anyone sitting in the central seats, and vice versa.

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