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AIBU to think this is absolutely disgusting and unecessary.

548 replies

Gettingbysomehow · 07/06/2023 12:50

So this happened a few miles away from where I live.
Call me old fashioned but I think this is totally inappropriate and somebody should have called the police.
I have been a naturist for 40 years but the old fashioned kind who doesn't think dangling your genitals in front of families and young children who have gone for a meal is at all appropriate.
I would question why they found the need to do this. There are plenty of naturist clubs in the area.
People go to naturist clubs to get an all over tan and be a member of an organisation that usually has a pool and cheap membership.
My non naturist friends think I'm being stuffy and ridiculous am I?
Diners shocked as naked pair enjoy meal in Burnham-On-Sea pub

Diners shocked as naked pair enjoy meal in Burnham-On-Sea pub

Diners at a Burnham-On-Sea pub say they were shocked after a naked man and woman walked into the bar and were served a meal.

https://www.burnham-on-sea.com/news/diners-shocked-as-naked-pair-enjoy-meal-in-burnham-on-sea-pub/

OP posts:
VWHoliday · 08/06/2023 08:45

AmateurDad · 08/06/2023 00:01

Why is it disgusting?

😂Do you know nothing about the human body?

VWHoliday · 08/06/2023 08:49

It sounds like I wouldn't need to shield my children from them as they weren't actively drawing attention to themselves.

You don't have to be swinging your bits around to be noticed. If you haven't got any pants on you're going to be drawing attention.

LakieLady · 08/06/2023 08:56

VWHoliday · 07/06/2023 23:48

@Lockheart if a naked person walked in my local pub and manager said "No, you have to wear pants in here". Would manager be legally OK to do this without being sued?

There are still some hotels etc where men are required to wear jackets, so I think a pants in the pub rule would be legal.

ArabeIIaScott · 08/06/2023 08:56

oviraptor21 · 08/06/2023 07:21

Yep - it's a public decency offence rather than a sexual offence.
Unfortunately the CPS in its infinite wisdom seem to think it's better to prosecute under the SOA where applicable. Personally I think they need to tighten up their guidelines re the POA.

If I'd been in that pub I would have walked out without paying and let the landlord make a claim against me.

Agree about the POA.

It's the shift from whether this man has a right to get his cock out (focussed on his motivation, which is very hard if not impossible to ascertain or prove) to the question of whether the majority of people who don't want to see his cock have a right to have their dignity, feelings, preferences, and choices respected.

Individualism getting the focus rather than the collective good, yet again.

Rights for cocks, and everyone else has to be 'educated' out of their preferences.

mondaytosunday · 08/06/2023 09:23

Disgusting? No. Inappropriate? Yes. It's not something I'd be caught dead doing so admire their hutzpah.

AnImaginaryCat · 08/06/2023 10:06

VWHoliday · 08/06/2023 08:49

It sounds like I wouldn't need to shield my children from them as they weren't actively drawing attention to themselves.

You don't have to be swinging your bits around to be noticed. If you haven't got any pants on you're going to be drawing attention.

Didn't say they wouldn't be noticed.

Of course a person will be noticed if they are naked in public where the vast majority are clothed.

The post, that you partly copied, was how my opinion was dependant on the behaviour.

There is a different in the attention drawn to a person sitting at a table eating a burger than is drawn to a naked person swinging and touching their genitals in the middle of a train carriage.

IClaudine · 08/06/2023 10:15

They are just attention seekers. Best to ignore them!

IClaudine · 08/06/2023 10:17

I could understand it more if the British weather was more Mediterranean. They must be freezing most of the time.

Addymontgomeryfan · 08/06/2023 10:39

jcyclops · 07/06/2023 23:38

I looked at the article, and couldn't help but laugh at the sign outside the pub:

I think they used an old picture from when the street outside the pub was pedestrianised during COVID. Where the pub is situated is a crossroads and the 3 streets leading onto the other weren't pedestrianised.

StaySpicy · 08/06/2023 13:39

BanjoKnickers · 07/06/2023 20:20

These people made a deliberate choice to remove their clothes and visit a public place.

There are those who choose to be offended by these things,

Just changing the order of your sentences ...

My point was people shouldn't be offended about things that people cannot change about themselves, so race, sexuality, disability etc.

These people made an active choice to remove their clothes, knowing that they were going to offend some people but choosing to do it anyway.

Icanbringmyselfflowers · 08/06/2023 13:45

They must get some sort of thrill from this. There is no need for it, they are deliberately trying to get attention. I don’t find it disturbing, but I do think there is something off about them that they wish to do this.

VWHoliday · 08/06/2023 14:00

Apparently Neil & Danielle's mental health is much better since they have been doing it 🙄

Florissante · 08/06/2023 14:01

Yes. I'm sure that publicly exhibiting their fetish is good for their mental health.

VWHoliday · 08/06/2023 14:03

Florissante · 08/06/2023 14:01

Yes. I'm sure that publicly exhibiting their fetish is good for their mental health.

It's a load of bollocks.

Florissante · 08/06/2023 14:04

Half a load of bollocks.

Thesunwillcomeoutverysoon · 08/06/2023 14:05

Just 2 bollocks were mentioned.

wentworthinmate · 08/06/2023 18:39

Meeting · 07/06/2023 13:04

I'd have walked out.

I am not willing to participate in someone's proclivity to be naked in front of strangers. They obviously get a kick out of it.

This.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 08/06/2023 18:44

My objection is mostly to seats on which other people's bare bottoms have been.
I mean I wouldn't let my kids sit naked on soft furnishings.. or hard chairs, for that matter.

StinkerTroll · 08/06/2023 18:49

We had a naked couple on a tandem ride through the town 2 weeks ago......

MalcolmBoura · 08/06/2023 19:52

A lot of the posts on this topic are really extremely worrying. I have spent years studying these issues and I have not found a shred of evidence that nudity causes harm to anyone , of any age. However I have found strong evidence of benefit, that that benefit is large, and that it is particularly important for children and young people. Acting on myth instead of facts is a sure way to harm children.

DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 19:57

MalcolmBoura · 08/06/2023 19:52

A lot of the posts on this topic are really extremely worrying. I have spent years studying these issues and I have not found a shred of evidence that nudity causes harm to anyone , of any age. However I have found strong evidence of benefit, that that benefit is large, and that it is particularly important for children and young people. Acting on myth instead of facts is a sure way to harm children.

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MalcolmBoura · 08/06/2023 19:59

If you doubt what I say why don't you try to find some evidence to refute it?

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 20:00

MalcolmBoura · 08/06/2023 19:52

A lot of the posts on this topic are really extremely worrying. I have spent years studying these issues and I have not found a shred of evidence that nudity causes harm to anyone , of any age. However I have found strong evidence of benefit, that that benefit is large, and that it is particularly important for children and young people. Acting on myth instead of facts is a sure way to harm children.

However I have found strong evidence of benefit, that that benefit is large, and that it is particularly important for children and young people.

Care to share this strong evidence?

Because if you genuinely can't see the safeguarding risk of eroding / removing the social expectation of people keeping their genitals covered in public, I hope you don't work in any sort of safeguarding capacity.

DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 20:01

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

monsteramunch · 08/06/2023 20:01

MalcolmBoura · 08/06/2023 19:59

If you doubt what I say why don't you try to find some evidence to refute it?

You've asserted you've seen 'strong evidence' of the benefit of nudity in public (which is the topic in hand) so the onus is on you to provide this evidence. Otherwise what are you asking them to refute?

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