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Schools responsibility to more able children

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Rainyrunway · 05/06/2023 13:06

I have twin DC aged 8. Both are working above the expected level across the board academically according to their teachers. What can I reasonably expect the school to do to accommodate this?
1 isn't too bothered, but the other absolutely hates school because they find it boring. Says the work is constantly repeated and they spend ages going over the same stuff.
This is absolutely not meant as a stealth brag, but I just want them to get back to enjoying school, without a fight for them to go in every day.
I always explain to DC that just because they find maths (for example) easy that doesn't mean everyone else does. In the same way as some kids are amazing at gymnastics while my DC can barely to a forward roll. They do understand this and don't show off as far as I can tell.
But I want them to enjoy school. I want to have a chat with the teacher but I don't want to be unreasonable, as I know she has a lot to deal with and kids with much bigger problems. So how can I address it? I know the school have additional work that can be done at home but this doesn't solve the issue really. It's while they're in the classroom that they're not being challenged at all.
I'm worried that not only are they not fulfilling their potential (either child) at least one is likely to completely switch off if the problem isn't addressed as they no longer enjoy going in at all. We have had school refusals and tummy aches and the like, and I think it's all related.

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Purplegherkins · 06/06/2023 06:07

YANBU and I think this is on the school. Can you ask to meet with the teacher/head? My nephew is in a small class in a state school but is very bright indeed - some of the work he gets is the same as his peers but he is often provided more challenging work on the side also. For example he is not required to do spelling any more and is instead set different challenges in that time that are geared towards him. Your kids’ school should be able to provide this too. There are some kids who require special attention due to learning difficulties, and others who require special attention due to particularly speedy progress.

CurlewKate · 06/06/2023 06:11

@YSWIM "Why don't primary schools stream kids according to their levels, particularly in maths, but possible in English too?"

If you mean setting, then I think most schools do. If you mean streaming, then it's ineffective and divisive.

Redlocks28 · 06/06/2023 07:08

for bigger schools like 2 and 3 form entries you could easily split them into top, middle and bottom (obviously you wouldn't call them that)

I have been teaching long enough that I’ve worked in a school that did this. Believe me, no matter what you call the classes, the kids know. It had far-reaching consequences socially and was shocking for some pupils’ self esteem.

It was scrapped when people decided it was ever so important for teachers to have performance-related pay, as doing it by streamed classes was unfair and divisive. SMT talked about rotating it so that you had a different stream each year, but it would have affected people’s threshold applications too much. Nowadays, people just don’t stay in teaching long enough for a rotation to be workable.

YSWIM · 06/06/2023 07:20

CurlewKate · 06/06/2023 06:11

@YSWIM "Why don't primary schools stream kids according to their levels, particularly in maths, but possible in English too?"

If you mean setting, then I think most schools do. If you mean streaming, then it's ineffective and divisive.

Sorry, I meant setting. In DC's primary they do maths together and take lowest performing kids out of assemblies to do catch up, so they get the most help. Unfortunately others all do the same stuff.

Oh yes and they do get to read books when finished with work, but that's a lot of reading in a day.

IJustHadToLookHavingReadTheBook · 06/06/2023 14:29

My eldest finds this- she's also eight. I also was a bit like this at school, at least until I got to secondary and things got a bit more challenging and interesting. I encourage her to find joy where she can in what they do and to do her own reading about areas she finds interesting. All you can do really I think.

ginandpimmsandcoffee · 27/06/2023 17:04
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Pidgythe2nd · 08/07/2023 06:06

In the schools I’m involved in all
of the focus (and money) is on closing the gap between the bottom 20%.
Apparently the greater depth pupils are catered for by the high quality teaching for all. My experience is that it depends a lot on the teacher. My children are not ‘exceptional’ but usually top 1 or 2 in the class but often have to go through simple maths concepts over and over so that everyone understands. It’s slow and they get fed up. But the good teachers then give appropriate challenge work and they do a couple of the easier questions to check they truly have understood.

Therr are numerous interventions, catch up sessions and tutoring sessions provided for lower ability. Nothing in school for higher ability. frustrating to say the least.

We do what we can at home but with working, various clubs etc, and often a refusal ag home, I’m sure they could achieve a lot more if pushed.

But, with limited resources, teachers already stretched and a what seems to be an increasing number of children with complex needs, I don’t blame the school. I don’t know what the answer is (except remove and educate privately which isn’t an option, or perhaps a new government!!)

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