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Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 09:18

I know there are lots of other threads. I haven’t found anyone asking/thinking what I am.

I watched the interview. The way he softened when mentioning the young man and emphasised several times that he’s the one he’s most concerned about.

Was it just me thinking WHAT ABOUT YOUR WIFE??? When Amol asked why it was wrong/what he regretted, I assumed he’d say “well, mainly I was unfaithful to my wife. That was wrong. Im so sorry about that.”

And when he was asked about other gay experiences/relationships he shut that down. Which left me thinking, again, WHAT ABOUT BEING UNFAITHFUL TO YOUR WIFE!!!

He’s talked about “us four” before and mentioned it again in the interview. But it’s not ok for him to have all the cosiness and support of a family unit when he’s being unfaithful, surely?

So my AIBU is am I the only one who is seeing this mainly through the eyes of his wife who is watching her husbands infidelity playing out in public? Maybe they’re not sexually intimate and haven’t been for years. But they’re clearly emotionally intimate, spend a lot of time together etc. How UTTERLY GRIM if she didn’t know that her husband was shagging young men. (I really don’t think she did know - I believe him when he says he lied to her).

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jays · 03/06/2023 11:33

Elior · 03/06/2023 11:10

She is not his wife but one of his victims (a unique type). His daughters are also his victims. It is sinister how those three women are devoted to putting his dramas before their own lives. They all need to get help to understand how to break out of it.

I completely agree with you, especially that fact that his daughters are his victims. To think of what they’re going through right now and yet he had zero self awareness when admitting that THEY have had to look after HIM to make sure HE was ok and didn’t do anything stupid, that says it all to me about this man. He should be looking out for and after his children during this time and yet it’s the other way round and he can’t even see how shameful that is and had no problem admitting that his children are carrying him! A true narc.

stealthninjamum · 03/06/2023 11:33

I agree I was waiting for him to say something like ‘I committed adultery’ but it didn’t come. My conclusion is that he has probably committed adultery several times and at some point they’ll come out. If he had seemed too upset about the adultery is would be less believable when a load of guys revealed they’d also had a sexual relationship with him. That’s why he wouldn’t answer the question about other sexual partners.

I do feel sorry for his wife and girls. It’s one of my biggest regrets that when my ex left I cried a lot and my dds supported me. He has the money to pay counsellors / psychiatrists to unburden himself to not his children.

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 11:39

@Chispazo beautifully put. Thank you.

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jays · 03/06/2023 11:39

stealthninjamum · 03/06/2023 11:33

I agree I was waiting for him to say something like ‘I committed adultery’ but it didn’t come. My conclusion is that he has probably committed adultery several times and at some point they’ll come out. If he had seemed too upset about the adultery is would be less believable when a load of guys revealed they’d also had a sexual relationship with him. That’s why he wouldn’t answer the question about other sexual partners.

I do feel sorry for his wife and girls. It’s one of my biggest regrets that when my ex left I cried a lot and my dds supported me. He has the money to pay counsellors / psychiatrists to unburden himself to not his children.

The difference here is when you cried you hadn’t done anything wrong! You were obviously heartbroken and doing the best you could. This man has behaved horrendously and is using his daughters to lean on whilst dealing with the repercussions of his own horrible actions when he should be protecting them, huge difference X

continentallentil · 03/06/2023 11:39

Agreed.

the80sweregreat · 03/06/2023 11:41

I watched the bbc one on I player.
I don't know what to think about it, but I can see why people think his lying or just doing this for damage limitation. He has also done an interview with the Sun.
He described the young man involved as vulnerable, I just wished he had realized this from the start and left him alone.
I am having trouble believing that this was only affair given his age at the time this happened, but we only have his word this is the case and as he lied before it's difficult.
I can imagine the press are desperate for the the other man's story and probably trying their best to get it , hence PS paying for him to have a lawyer.

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:42

Inkanta · 03/06/2023 09:40

Also sickens me how he still wears his wedding ring, like he's using her to show he's still and upstanding and loyal husband bleugh
Yes in actual fact he might have got more respect for giving her a divorce.

Perhaps she doesn’t want a divorce. It would have been pretty easy for her to get one. I take the view that it’s insolent to be offended on behalf of someone who’s perfectly capable of making their own decisions and judgement on their situation. I expect she’s suffering far more from the media hysteria and invasion of privacy than from his extra marital activities

Gtsr443 · 03/06/2023 11:42

Languagofdelight · 03/06/2023 10:46

But you've just argued that women are happy to be 'beards'. A beard refers to a wife who is used to hide a man's sexuality while accentuating his masculinity. Suggesting that wives are happy to be used in this way is the same as condoning it no?

I am not arguing or condoning I am stating a fact.
"Beards" exist. Some people are very happy with the arrangement whether you find it palatable or not. Just as there are "twinks" who chase after "bears" and happily married men that fuck rent boys.
I'm not condoning any of it.
But in my world, after 40 years of being surrounded by a lot of gay men some of whom were escorts, this is a reality.
The heterosexual world really hasn't got a clue.
And yes married men, catholic priests, very high profile stars - my gay friends have had them all.

AliceMcK · 03/06/2023 11:43

Sorry Nrtft as with all the others I’ve skimmed through them, but not seen what on my mind, which is why no one is connecting him “potentially” grooming this young man and his brothers conviction for having sex with children, underage boys. I think this has a big part to play in why it’s all coming out now, why he’s potentially lost his “protection” and I think there is seriously something fucked up in their childhoods for 2 brothers to be doing the same thing.

Im also pissed off with the homophobia line, it has nothing to do with him being gay, plenty of gay celebrities out there who don’t behave like this.

Neverfarfromasong · 03/06/2023 11:43

The more he talked the more I wondered the very same thing. I’m Also baffled as to why the interviewer didn’t explore this issue. I thought for much of the interview it was as though there were no wife and children.
Hardly surprising though, if for much of his life he behaved as if there was no family.

Idontpostmuch · 03/06/2023 11:44

Tinkerbyebye · 03/06/2023 09:38

He’s a piece of shit. And all those saying it’s homophobia at play should be ashamed

he lied, to his wife, to his kids, to his agency, to work, to the public, everyone. He only ‘came out’ when pushed and I remain to be convinced that actually he’s not gay he is bi but using the gay narrative to get sympathy, cos he’s a nasty horrible twat. otherwise why carry on wearing a wedding ring and seeing his wife?

His true colours are showing with his chats on TV, he cares only about him, he thinks the public want to hear about the relationship, therefore he says he feels sorry for M.

He cares about no one that himself

Never could see what people saw in him

You're right. Of course he's bisexual rather than gay. I don't understand why so many people are swallowing the gay story.

User98866 · 03/06/2023 11:45

I would assume his wife has known for a long time. That they are best friends, enjoy the partnership and the security that brings, and were happy to stay married for his image. I don’t really get the concern for his wife when no one knows her position on it, but the most likely is that she was on board with the set up. It was hardly a massive surprise when he came out was it ?

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 11:46

@stealthninjamum what you’ve said makes absolute sense. Thank you. I agree with others that your situation was v different xx

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dontchaknow · 03/06/2023 11:50

How is Gordon the Gopher doing? I'll bet he's still traumatised from sharing that broom cupboard with Scofield.

SweetBirdsong · 03/06/2023 11:51

Look I'm fed up of the BLOODY Schofield threads!!! Angry

Kidding. Smile

I agree @Schofe99 he was proper fawning over/gushing over said young man, but no thought for his wife. I noticed too. Poor woman. Sad Also feel for his daughters.

knobheeeeed · 03/06/2023 11:53

Im also pissed off with the homophobia line, it has nothing to do with him being gay, plenty of gay celebrities out there who don’t behave like this

Agree, He or his PR people have stage-managed this from the beginning. There was that big coming out drama/interview on This Morning where he cried on the sofa. That happened at that time because the rumours about MM were starting to surface and it looked like the lid was going to be blown on it all. So they stage-manage a big coming out scene where PS cries and is comforted by Holly etc. They know that no one will dare to say anything other than "how brave" because if people start criticizing him they can then wheel out the cries of "homophobia".
Now more has come out revealing that he was having an affair with a much younger man and rumours about whether he was or wasn't grooming him before the legal age of consent and waited until he was legal to have sex with him. They are basically using the homophobia line to once again shut down any criticism of his behaviour. You can't say anything about poor, brave, gay PS because he's gay and you're being homophobic.
No, his behaviour is inappropriate, and would have been irrespective of the sex of the young person involved.

the80sweregreat · 03/06/2023 11:53

Stephanie Lowe clearly doesn't want a divorce as surely she would have done it back in feb 2020 when he first ' came out'.
Unless these latest revelations have just floored her and she isn't in the right head space to get one or really not too bothered ,nobody knows as nobody has interviewed her and she seems to be keeping a low profile. Although I bet someone from the press has tried to her her to talk ?
I thought this too , he must be bi sexual rather than gay , but I've no idea.
I feel sorry for the the man involved. PS admitted he didn't love him. It's all so sad really for the young man
and the grooming allegations PS faces will stick despite all these interviews saying he didn't etc

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 11:54

I think the fact that she hasn’t left him suggests she was his beard and they haven’t had sex in years. She should divorce him and get half of everything.

Ulookgood · 03/06/2023 11:54

Your aibu should be that you are a bored woman who has no empathy for a person who is suicidal so you are going to not stop talking about all the bad things he did, until he does something to himself.

Leave him and his wife alone, so care for your own feelings on the matter rather than what they want. His wife does not need sympathy from random people like you, she can take care of herself and if not these kind of posts are not going to make her feel better.

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 11:55

Ulookgood · 03/06/2023 11:54

Your aibu should be that you are a bored woman who has no empathy for a person who is suicidal so you are going to not stop talking about all the bad things he did, until he does something to himself.

Leave him and his wife alone, so care for your own feelings on the matter rather than what they want. His wife does not need sympathy from random people like you, she can take care of herself and if not these kind of posts are not going to make her feel better.

Hello Philip 🥸

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:56

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 11:54

I think the fact that she hasn’t left him suggests she was his beard and they haven’t had sex in years. She should divorce him and get half of everything.

She should do whatever suits her. And everyone else should mind their own business and shut the fuck up.

Restee · 03/06/2023 11:56

@User98866 agree

Ulookgood · 03/06/2023 11:57

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 11:55

Hello Philip 🥸

I neither Philip nor any connection with him, but this kind of argument is so immature. Why is this a piece of entertainment for you all?

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:58

Ulookgood · 03/06/2023 11:57

I neither Philip nor any connection with him, but this kind of argument is so immature. Why is this a piece of entertainment for you all?

Exactly. It’s the equivalent of turning out to jeer at public executions 500 years ago.

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 11:58

@Ulookgood I don’t for one moment think any of his family are reading this.

I wish him well and I wish his family well. But I am also interested in what he said in the interview. I’m talking about an interview broadcast to the nation and it’s ok to discuss it.

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