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It’s a Schofield question - don’t click if you’re fed up with it!

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Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 09:18

I know there are lots of other threads. I haven’t found anyone asking/thinking what I am.

I watched the interview. The way he softened when mentioning the young man and emphasised several times that he’s the one he’s most concerned about.

Was it just me thinking WHAT ABOUT YOUR WIFE??? When Amol asked why it was wrong/what he regretted, I assumed he’d say “well, mainly I was unfaithful to my wife. That was wrong. Im so sorry about that.”

And when he was asked about other gay experiences/relationships he shut that down. Which left me thinking, again, WHAT ABOUT BEING UNFAITHFUL TO YOUR WIFE!!!

He’s talked about “us four” before and mentioned it again in the interview. But it’s not ok for him to have all the cosiness and support of a family unit when he’s being unfaithful, surely?

So my AIBU is am I the only one who is seeing this mainly through the eyes of his wife who is watching her husbands infidelity playing out in public? Maybe they’re not sexually intimate and haven’t been for years. But they’re clearly emotionally intimate, spend a lot of time together etc. How UTTERLY GRIM if she didn’t know that her husband was shagging young men. (I really don’t think she did know - I believe him when he says he lied to her).

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Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 12:00

I’m also horrified watching the press pick him apart. I can be horrified by that and saddened by the way he’s treated his family.

I can imagine many people in the public eye are watching this and adjusting their behaviour.

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DitherDother · 03/06/2023 12:03

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:58

Exactly. It’s the equivalent of turning out to jeer at public executions 500 years ago.

No it's not. People like Schofield have got away with it for years because the public didn't hold them to account and those in authoritybturned a blind eye.

It's clear those with the ability to do something about it have known for years and did nothing. Something needs to change so that this kind of behaviour doesn't continue to be covered up. If there's a risk of a public downfall because of your own behaviour, no matter who you are, that's a very good thing indeed for all the potential future victims of these people. If you don't want to have to defend your actions, don't make them.

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 12:03

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:56

She should do whatever suits her. And everyone else should mind their own business and shut the fuck up.

Why are you on this thread if you want to MYOB? You’re always in everyone’s business 😂

DitherDother · 03/06/2023 12:03

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 12:00

I’m also horrified watching the press pick him apart. I can be horrified by that and saddened by the way he’s treated his family.

I can imagine many people in the public eye are watching this and adjusting their behaviour.

And that's exactly why it's important the public are allowed to express their views.

SweetBirdsong · 03/06/2023 12:04

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 12:00

I’m also horrified watching the press pick him apart. I can be horrified by that and saddened by the way he’s treated his family.

I can imagine many people in the public eye are watching this and adjusting their behaviour.

It's proper nasty isn't it The persecution of him now, and the utter media witch-hunt is dreadful. I am no fan, and think he's a bit of an arse, and he has treated his wife so badly, BUT the way the media (incl social media) are behaving towards him is grim as fuck.

storminamooncup · 03/06/2023 12:05

Its very strange that they still aren't divorced yet. It can't be because of the money because I assume she'd get money if she left him anyway, so did she know and tolerate his behaviour? is there some kind of agreement or open marriage or what? Its all very wierd.

LifeIsPainHighness · 03/06/2023 12:06

When PS came out I felt like his wife HAD to be the Cool Wife that was supportive of her popular gay husband.

He came out 2 years ago and she’s been his lynchpin since ever since.

TBH I’m not sure she can now play the hurt hard done by wife when she was quite happy to be Supportive for so long. I wonder if she would rather have just left and not looked back. They had grown up kids, no reason to stay except for maybe money/security:

DitherDother · 03/06/2023 12:06

SweetBirdsong · 03/06/2023 12:04

It's proper nasty isn't it The persecution of him now, and the utter media witch-hunt is dreadful. I am no fan, and think he's a bit of an arse, and he has treated his wife so badly, BUT the way the media (incl social media) are behaving towards him is grim as fuck.

Is it persecution or is it outrage that another young person has been exploited like this? That a famous person with influence was untouchable for so long?

Or should these situations be allowed to continue without comment?

LifeIsPainHighness · 03/06/2023 12:07

storminamooncup · 03/06/2023 12:05

Its very strange that they still aren't divorced yet. It can't be because of the money because I assume she'd get money if she left him anyway, so did she know and tolerate his behaviour? is there some kind of agreement or open marriage or what? Its all very wierd.

I wondered this and I do hope she is having encounters with other men. Especially when he did!

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 12:07

Ulookgood · 03/06/2023 11:57

I neither Philip nor any connection with him, but this kind of argument is so immature. Why is this a piece of entertainment for you all?

It’s entertainment for you because you’re on this thread.

Philip is 61, Mathew is 20 ish and Philip knew him as a child. That’s skeezy as fuck.

LifeIsPainHighness · 03/06/2023 12:08

DitherDother · 03/06/2023 12:06

Is it persecution or is it outrage that another young person has been exploited like this? That a famous person with influence was untouchable for so long?

Or should these situations be allowed to continue without comment?

How was the runner exploited?

The only thing PS got away with was cheating on his wife - nothing to do with anybody else, he didn’t cheat on ITV or the public.

mainsfed · 03/06/2023 12:10

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:56

She should do whatever suits her. And everyone else should mind their own business and shut the fuck up.

People who don’t acknowledge their hypocrisy should shut the fuck up.

SweetSakura · 03/06/2023 12:11

SweetBirdsong · 03/06/2023 12:04

It's proper nasty isn't it The persecution of him now, and the utter media witch-hunt is dreadful. I am no fan, and think he's a bit of an arse, and he has treated his wife so badly, BUT the way the media (incl social media) are behaving towards him is grim as fuck.

The media doing that because they know there is a lot more behaviour of his that they can't report on (yet)

(It's widely know this -including the underage element-; wasn't a "one off")

SweetSakura · 03/06/2023 12:11

SweetBirdsong · 03/06/2023 12:04

It's proper nasty isn't it The persecution of him now, and the utter media witch-hunt is dreadful. I am no fan, and think he's a bit of an arse, and he has treated his wife so badly, BUT the way the media (incl social media) are behaving towards him is grim as fuck.

The media doing that because they know there is a lot more behaviour of his that they can't report on (yet)

(It's widely know this -including the underage element-; wasn't a "one off")

Inkanta · 03/06/2023 12:11

Blossomtoes · 03/06/2023 11:42

Perhaps she doesn’t want a divorce. It would have been pretty easy for her to get one. I take the view that it’s insolent to be offended on behalf of someone who’s perfectly capable of making their own decisions and judgement on their situation. I expect she’s suffering far more from the media hysteria and invasion of privacy than from his extra marital activities

Well that's another story but if PS wants to give a good impression to the outside world then staying married when you have affairs or come out gay isn't giving required impression. The image of an upstanding married man isnt working and isn't commanding respect from externals.

DitherDother · 03/06/2023 12:12

LifeIsPainHighness · 03/06/2023 12:08

How was the runner exploited?

The only thing PS got away with was cheating on his wife - nothing to do with anybody else, he didn’t cheat on ITV or the public.

Oh come on. Your 18yo son (or daughter), desperate to get into TV is given opportunities by someone (40 years older) who they met as a child through an educational pursuit, who goes on to sleep with them and you wouldn't feel they'd been exploited?

Quite apart from PS himself saying the young man is vulnerable and has fragile MH and publically saying he never loved him - so it was never about that.

the80sweregreat · 03/06/2023 12:15

When he first ' came out ' I can remember the threads on here with people saying it was an open secret for years and rumors about a colleague. How he can claim that nobody knew about this affair is a bit dubious , especially if they were all as close and supportive as he claims with the team around him and H W was his tv sister!
Probably the reason that Dan Wooten and Eamon Holmes were so scathing about it all as they had been told to stay quiet and obviously have a big axe to grind.
Their version of events is completely different to his ones especially around the cars and who pays for those and so on.
They are all saying different things.
Depends on who you believe.

Elior · 03/06/2023 12:16

Nothing like sticking the knife in even further - "I shagged him, it is known that he confessed his love for me to HW publicly at the NTAs but now I will declare again and again on national TV that I had no feelings for him"

the80sweregreat · 03/06/2023 12:20

Might do more harm than good.
The people around this young man might start advising him to get ' his truth' out there. I can bet his being offered a big wedge of money .
Hence having paid for a lawyer for him. Which PS said right at the beginning of the bbc interview. Is this to protect the young man or just himself ?..

VanGoghsDog · 03/06/2023 12:24

I actually think it's the opposite of homophobia.

I think if the runner had been a female child, then young woman, it would have been noticed and stopped a lot earlier. And there would be more outrage.
I think young gay men are overly sexualized and seen as far less vulnerable in some ways than girls are.

GloriousintheArctic · 03/06/2023 12:32

In answer to the original question about his wife, I think Steph knew he was gay and had lovers (probably for years and years, it was an open secret he was gay) but she did NOT know he had sex with the 20 year old runner. He made a reference to having had a wonderful marriage but then said WTTE of "but not now" so I assume he lied to her about that particular incident and she has understandably not taken that well.

ChristmasFluff · 03/06/2023 12:33

That interview shows exactly how manipulative the man is. Anyone who for one moment thinks he's sincere probably believes Brian Blessed puts in a subtle performance every time.

It was so obvious, the acting, the pauses for effect, the whole Princess Diana schtick.

Schofield thinks he knows what he is doing and that pantomime of an interview, with his threats of how close to the edge he is - that's all on him, and if the interviewer seemed to be picking over him, it was probably an attempt to get a genuine reaction.

A person who had genuine sorrow and concern for the lad they had groomed would have taken the fall, apologised privately and taken themselves off somewhere to reflect, lick their wounds and come to terms with what they had done wrong and the person they are. Maybe get some healing done. Live a quiet life and pursue some worthy causes. Stop pursuing fame and power.

Ultimately, he knew what he was doing was wrong, otherwise he wouldn't have hidden it.

It's less a witch hunt than his chickens coming home to roost.

742EvergreenTerrace · 03/06/2023 12:36

Loads of loads of celebrities have had affairs. Loads and loads of celebrities have have affairs with people they shouldn’t have, Morgan freeman marrying his step grandchild and woody Allen marrying his step daughter. None of those men came out with a grovelling interview on a red top nor the BBC, about they’ll never have a job again, suicidal etc

whats really going on? Something illegal I think.

Schofe99 · 03/06/2023 12:38

@742EvergreenTerrace maybe it’s different now? The Woody Allen situation was pretty major when it happened and that was without social media and cancel culture

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OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 03/06/2023 12:39

People who deny that PS is a groomer, I don't understand how they come to that conclusion.

Why would he paying for lawyers for MM if this was just an affair at work?

The age he says the affair started has changed from 18 to 20 in the past week straight from PS's mouth.

Anyone who says they would be happy for a 50+ year old man to be in touch with your 15 year old boy and have the position of power to make this young teens dream job come true and get him a job away from his family and friends and then the news comes out about the affair is a liar. No parent would be happy for that scenario for your child. Even if you don't think it's grooming, it's bloody sickening!

He is a groomer, he has done this to other boys, the evidence is all out there and not in a conspiracy point of view. You just have to look at PS's tweets to young teens.