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SAHM- DH wanting to give me ‘routines’ and ‘duties’

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SummerDuck · 02/06/2023 19:43

So I’m a SAHM with DS1 (15), DS2 (9) and DD (3). DH works full time. He has recently started moaning about how I’m not doing enough around the house.

DD is at home full time other than being at nursery one day a week. I do most of the cooking, cleaning and general household admin. However, DH has said there is no not enough ‘output’. He therefore wants to introduce ‘routines’ and ‘duties’ whereby he will set out what needs to be done on a particular day and carry out checks upon returning from work.

So Monday will be garden day for example and the lawn will need to be mowed and leaves sweeped. Tuesday will be bathroom cleaning day and so on.

Is this level of micromanagement normal for SAHPs and should I just be grateful?

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cormorant5 · 02/06/2023 22:01

After several years of reading some strange stories on Mumsnet.com
This is unique. I wonder why?

BadNomad · 02/06/2023 22:01

And what happens if you fail his after-work-inspection?

Grumpy67i8 · 02/06/2023 22:02

A sudden change in behaviour like that screams mistress / midlife crisis to me. Or has he always been an entitled arsehole?

SunnyGrass · 02/06/2023 22:03

Holy fuck no!
I do believe in some circles people seek out stepford wives. If my DH was on a group of people who all did this with their wives he would think they are dicks, not move to join them.

Mum2jenny · 02/06/2023 22:03

OP - fuck off would be a sensible response to his twat like ideas

KTSl1964 · 02/06/2023 22:03

I’d think I’d tell him to f….off!!!
cheeky twunt

planningnightmare · 02/06/2023 22:04

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/06/2023 21:49

Have RTFT Confused

What stands out to me is that his sudden dissatisfaction in this relationship, which presumably has been okay for just over 15 years as that is the age of your DS, is "recent".

Suddenly everything is strangely conditional and transactional.....

Do you know any of his colleagues, or their wives?

Has he recently changed firms or is there a new boss? Jordan Peterson perhaps? Sorry to be flippant but it's all a bit ideological / surrendered wife territory .....

Because honestly it sounds like he's almost setting you up for a fall, as surely no half rational bloke could see this working without it killing any sort of romantic relationship.

Personally, and I admit to being a cynical post menopausal harridan, I'd be getting an exit strategy in place to protect myself.

I wish you luck OP - this does not sound normal at all, and I would worry that if his expectations aren't met, he'll be using your inability or unwillingness to comply as a way to paint himself as the victim, as in benevolent breadwinner versus uncooperative spouse.....

I think you need to do some digging .....

this is very good advice

KnackeredandWiser · 02/06/2023 22:06

To be honest I wouldn't mess around with making spreadsheets and costing what you do and where he is lacking. I'd just ask him if he wants to get divorced as he disrespects you so much. And it is incredibly disrespectful. I earn more than twice what my husband does and wouldn't dream of leaving him a 'to do list' of chores. We are partners and we share jobs.

And I don't believe for a moment that his colleagues do those things either. I work with very senior men and women - Exec Committee and Board members - and they absolutely don't treat their partners like this.

OP, tell him to fuck off. He's lying to you.

SouthLondonMum22 · 02/06/2023 22:08

Fizzytea · 02/06/2023 20:52

Umm, er, no. He 'gets to work,' because she is doing the essential work, which is absolutely vital for the human race, allowing him to do a very unnecessary and possibly damaging activity. Yes, it brings money in, but he's not doing the essential job.

And he 'gets to' work also because she has given up her potential career so that he can pursue his. He wouldn't be able to do his work without her enabling him to do so by looking after the children, doing his share for him.

How is what he's doing not essential? Money to house, feed etc everyone is absolutely essential.

Of course he could work without her. Many parents work full time without a SAHP.

drspouse · 02/06/2023 22:08

@CrazyArmadilloLady Typos and that number of children indicates to me someone who can't read well enough to work out how to take the Pill.

Begonne · 02/06/2023 22:09

I told my dh, early in our relationship that I was his wife, not his employee. And that the correct way to greet me when he arrived home was to ask how my day was and kiss me, not proffer constructive criticism or conduct a performance review.

I wasn’t impressed at needing to spell that out but I didn’t have to tell him twice.

I think you need to firmly establish some boundaries here.

But, I will add that (speaking as a sahm) we check in with each others schedules every morning, (what have you got on today?) and check what we can do to help each other out. Being aware of the pressures and struggles we each have going on is pretty essential to our partnership. And sometimes when I’m struggling to motivate myself to do something I will ask him to check back with me, for some accountability.

As hilarious as some of the suggestions are on this thread, it does sound like you both might need to do some serious communication about expectations and realities. Being a sahm without respect and trust isn’t tenable.

Nanaof1 · 02/06/2023 22:09

TheSnowyOwl · 02/06/2023 19:49

I would return to work full time and hire a cleaner, gardener, cook, nanny and anyone else you need. Leave your DH to complain about the unnecessary costs and enjoy the peace and quiet in the evenings whilst he is busy inspecting their work and sending them performance improvement plans.

This made me laugh WAY too hard! I almost shot Pepsi out my nose.
😆😲👏

GoodChat · 02/06/2023 22:10

Why are you just posting rewording your OP and not actually interacting with any responses?

Okshacky · 02/06/2023 22:10

Famzonhol · 02/06/2023 21:10

He is being billed. Presumably he’s paying the rent/mortgage, all the food, clothes, energy etc etc.

I assume you are ignorant about the cost of even part time domestic support?

Gremlins101 · 02/06/2023 22:11

No no no no no thats not normal.

ToK1 · 02/06/2023 22:11

@Okshacky

You think 'domestic support'

Out earns a finance lawyer?

autumnboys · 02/06/2023 22:16

This would be a definite no for me. I was a SAHM for 8 years while DH worked full time. Certainly during that time we both had our frustrations with how much and what one another did, but we were able to acknowledge that neither of us had any idea what the others day to day life entitled. Things improved when I went back to work.

I highly doubt that senior executives in a FS company are discussing the minutiae of domestic life. I worked in FS in the City before children, just can’t see it. If so, perhaps he could instead lead a culture of speaking positively about spouses?

Nanaof1 · 02/06/2023 22:17

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Some of your off time should have been spent learning reading comprehension. What part of child number three, DD(3) was above you?
Also, I assume you meant to write "cleaning" before and child care?

And it's "you're", not your or yore. Learn the difference.
Oh, and here's your medal.
HTH

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 02/06/2023 22:20

Chickenkeev · 02/06/2023 21:08

Get the fuck away from him and fast. Controlling AF. Run.

Unfortunately she’s not going anywhere.

This is what happens when women give up their career and independence to stay at home while their husbands forge successful careers. They get so dependent that it’s just not feasible to leave. The fact she has to ask on mumsnet if this makes sense is a worrying sign.

Many women would tell their husbands hell no rather than come to mumsnet asking first.

Wanderingfree32 · 02/06/2023 22:20

I would pretend to go along with it and then on lawn day just do the lawn and nothing else. Like no tidying up, none of his washing, no food for him (feed the kids). Let him come home to a hell hole but say "yes but you asked me to do the lawn so I did it to inspection standards. I can't watch our toddler, do the lawn and then do anything else, it takes the whole day to do the lawn while looking after a toddler at the same time. Perhaps at the weekend, you can show me how to do it all?"

ThinWomansBrain · 02/06/2023 22:21

I think you should be too busy consulting a solicitor on Monday to follow the suggested routind.

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 02/06/2023 22:22

SummerDuck · 02/06/2023 21:07

DH is a partner in financial regulation at a city firm and says all of the partners at his firm give their wives chore lists.

Not sure I’m convinced that’s the case.

And so he wants to manage you like one of his analysts at work?

The fact he is discussing what you do at home with his colleagues is very very disrespectful and shows what he thinks of you.

Freefall212 · 02/06/2023 22:22

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 02/06/2023 22:20

Unfortunately she’s not going anywhere.

This is what happens when women give up their career and independence to stay at home while their husbands forge successful careers. They get so dependent that it’s just not feasible to leave. The fact she has to ask on mumsnet if this makes sense is a worrying sign.

Many women would tell their husbands hell no rather than come to mumsnet asking first.

Who knows what her intention was in posting. She hasn't engaged in the thread or responded to anyone. Sometimes people post about topics they know will get a rise out of the board.

lauraisa · 02/06/2023 22:22

Well clearly it's not getting done or else he wouldn't need the checklist.

Nanaof1 · 02/06/2023 22:23

Okshacky · 02/06/2023 19:55

No.

Unless he wants to be billed for cleaning, cooking, driving, childcare etc?

He'd need to earn close to $250K or more just to pay all of those salaries. Gardener, nanny, housekeeper, chauffeur, cook, laundress. If one of the kids become ill, add in nursing. If you pay the bills, accountant. It adds up quickly. Taking messages for DH? Add in secretary. I am sure I am forgetting some....

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