Al Pacino (83) having child with his 29 year old girlfrienc

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Aibu to think the media portray it as perfectly ok for an 83 year old man to have a child with a 29 year old woman but when it’s older women having babies, it’s portrayed as selfish etc. Incredible!

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/al-pacino-girlfriend-noor-alfallah-expecting-baby-b2348623.html

I think it's pretty sad.

Statistically it's more likely that he'll die before age 90 than survive that long. Although it's not impossible, as just over a third of American men aged 83 will live approx. 6 more years at that age (according to US stats).

However the chances of him still being alive in 2041 when the child is about to reach 18y/o, are tiny. Less than 1% of men his age now, will live past 100.

There is also a higher likelihood of genetic issues, which is a much bigger risk factor given his age. Sperm may be replenished at regular intervals but the quality of the sperm produced deteriorates as part of ageing.

I hope for both their sakes that everything turns out well, and that he enjoys good health for many years to come. However my overall view is that this is a classic case of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

Thought the age of the father can have an impact on the possibility of autism

Can’t get a PP’s comment about dangly balls, out of my head now!

Take that back

It’s grim on all levels. And I judge both men and women who have children past a certain age.

IMO one of the reasons society is less judgemental of men though is that men can still get a woman pregnant naturally whereas if an older woman wants to have a baby she has to go through IVF, and in some instances even use donor eggs. The reality is that women aren’t meant to have children past a certain age hence the menopause but men still can.

I judge both equally though.

These men who have relationships with younger women clearly see it as a status symbol, and the women who have relationships with these older men are more or less prostituting themselves, you’ll never convince me that a 29 year old shagging an 83 year old is doing it for love. Equally I don’t imagine she would be with him if he was Fred who used to work down at the dog and duck.

Ahhh, she must love him very much. What a lovely, genuine woman.

I'll keep what I could do with his balls in my head😜

The child will never know its father, which to me would be sad, without in any way denigrating single parents. It will never have the chance to because it’s unlikely he will be alive when the child is 10 and above

Some might say she's having a baby with an al-fallah...

I'll get my coat.

Yeah, can you imagine a twenty nine year old woman dating an eighty three year old on pension credits. I don’t think so.

Do they ever stop to think how the child will feel as they get older. If my mum was that age and my dad was a doddering pensioner I would possibly feel some resentment and more.

IMO one of the reasons society is less judgemental of men though is that men can still get a woman pregnant naturally whereas if an older woman wants to have a baby she has to go through IVF, and in some instances even use donor eggs. The reality is that women aren’t meant to have children past a certain age hence the menopause but men still can.

They can but that doesn’t mean they should.

So I’m guessing all the ones that are saying leave them alone what does it matter wouldn’t mind their twenty something son or daughter dating and procreating with an octogenerian?

Money.

I never thought so many MNers would confess to shagging an octogenarian in exchange for financial comfort.

going against the grain here maybe but… he’s an extremely high status man whatever his age. He has huge wealth, massive success and very high social standing. She’s making a very sound decision: any child of his will have huge advantages through life, simply by virtue of who their father is.

it could be argued that her decision is far more rational than that of the many women on here who choose to reproduce with total losers.

His age is irrelevant tbh: his status negates that.

She's not crazy at all - she's having a child with a very wealthy and successful man. This is her meal ticket for life, and the child will also be provided for. so she’s prostituting herself. Classy.

Oh I agree. It’s disgusting whichever is the older partner. I was just saying that I think that’s why some of society takes a different view.

Well it's not that hard that hard to meet a rich man that's younger she's attractive. Unless she's hoping for his entire estate but it will be divided by 7 so if its a gold digger plan it its not that clever.

Yup. I don't get all the outrage. It sits outside social norms, as do many choices people make. But I agree that one very big and probably the main reason for her choice is that she's looking to the future and how that will look financially and consequently, opportunity wise.

She's clever. She knows that he won't be around for that long and then she and her child will be set for life.

She's not stupid at all.

At the end of the day it's an exchange.

He gets her young body and she gets financial security and luxury.

She wouldn't go out with an 83 year old pensioner living in poverty.

I feel sorry for the child though as it will never have a proper father figure.

Absolutely.

Nice arrangement for the child financially. Set for life. She knows that. Disgusting all the same. Boak.

The child might have a terrific step-dad, one day.

Or other male role-models - half-brothers, uncles, cousins.

It’ll be ok.

All the people saying good on her, set for life, yada yada, nobody seems to be thinking of the child who is essentially just a commodity in all of this. No father, likely being brought up by the nanny while the mother fucks off to live her extravagant life and waiting for the next geriatric rich bloke to shag for his money.

It’s vile.

Get real. He’s a dirty old man and she’s a high priced hooker. And the child is just a plaything who will likely be in therapy by the time it’s 18.