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Al Pacino (83) having child with his 29 year old girlfrienc

164 replies

Seagullsbythesea · 31/05/2023 11:25

Aibu to think the media portray it as perfectly ok for an 83 year old man to have a child with a 29 year old woman but when it’s older women having babies, it’s portrayed as selfish etc. Incredible!

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/al-pacino-girlfriend-noor-alfallah-expecting-baby-b2348623.html

Al Pacino, 83, expecting his fourth child with 29-year-old girlfriend Noor Alfallah

Alfallah is reportedly a month away from giving birth

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/al-pacino-girlfriend-noor-alfallah-expecting-baby-b2348623.html

OP posts:
Astrabees · 31/05/2023 13:36

There is a lot of unpleasant ageism on this thread. It is one thing to be critical of them having a child when the age gap is so great but what is it with the “geriatric cock” and similar comments? What age do the posters think that you have become so repulsive you can’t be loved? 60, 70? I ‘m sure they will have thought this through.

KimberleyClark · 31/05/2023 13:39

I haven’t been able to find out exactly how old de Niro’s girlfriend is but she’s apparently 45/46. Not quite as bad as the age gap between Pacino and his girlfriend,

VariationsonaTheme · 31/05/2023 13:39

I know a couple in real life who have a similar age gap and three young children. Not in it for the money in this case and he’s a very fit man, albeit in his late 70s. A bit weird at first but now I don’t think anything of it, they appear to be very happy.

KimberleyClark · 31/05/2023 13:46

Astrabees · 31/05/2023 13:36

There is a lot of unpleasant ageism on this thread. It is one thing to be critical of them having a child when the age gap is so great but what is it with the “geriatric cock” and similar comments? What age do the posters think that you have become so repulsive you can’t be loved? 60, 70? I ‘m sure they will have thought this through.

MN is ageist as fuck especially about older men. Not that there’s anything ageist about saying it’s selfish for men in their 70s and 80s to have kids, but the “geriatric cock” and “balls hanging down o knees” comments are horrible.

JamSandle · 31/05/2023 13:48

It doesn't bother me. It was consensual on both parts. He gets to have sex with a younger woman and she has a great financial set up for her child. Not morally amazing but not awful either.

LlynTegid · 31/05/2023 13:54

There is nothing to suggest Mr Pacino is an unfit man, never heard of any suggestion of coercive control or other ill treatment towards any relationship with a woman, and he has not broken any marriage vows. Or tried to deny he was ever married to someone, as Mick Jagger did.

We could all think of several men, known to us or not, who are far less suitable to be a dad.

mydogisthebest · 31/05/2023 13:57

Both stupid and both selfish.

He is far too old to be having a child and she is an idiot to have a child with an old man.

What 29 year old woman fancies an 83 year old man? That's just weird and pretty yuk. I also find it yuk that so many men fancy woman young enough to be their grand daughter.

QueenBitch666 · 31/05/2023 13:58

Creepy and selfish AF 🤮

QueenBitch666 · 31/05/2023 13:58

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 31/05/2023 12:42

Men are such complete disappointments.

Always

Whiteroomjoy · 31/05/2023 13:59

Do these men know there are increased health risks for baby AND mother, and that those start to rise above 45 years old?
women get all the flack about being older mums, increase risk of downs and other issues, but it is conveniently not discussed the very well established issues with the genetic mutations that creep into sperm with age.

https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/later-life-fatherhood-risks

photo of dad with newborn

The Risks of Becoming a Dad Later in Life

As more men over 40 are becoming dads, a study says older men may be more likely to father children with health woes. But the overall risk of birth problems remains low, an expert says.

https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/later-life-fatherhood-risks

QueenBitch666 · 31/05/2023 14:00

TeaYarn · 31/05/2023 13:25

What in the name of Philip Schofield is going on????

😂😂😂

Whiteroomjoy · 31/05/2023 14:04

Astrabees · 31/05/2023 13:36

There is a lot of unpleasant ageism on this thread. It is one thing to be critical of them having a child when the age gap is so great but what is it with the “geriatric cock” and similar comments? What age do the posters think that you have become so repulsive you can’t be loved? 60, 70? I ‘m sure they will have thought this through.

Agree, have sex with who you want if consensual and legal

But there is a known risk with aging paternity and it is not discussed enough . It is highly risky for him to father a child at that age both to the child AND to the mother, surprisingly. At best it is ignorance, at worst it is selfish, and even narcissistic

TooJoy · 31/05/2023 14:09

They are both very selfish bringing a child into the world knowing one parent will die before it grows up.

TooJoy · 31/05/2023 14:12

Naunet · 31/05/2023 12:57

Selfish, vain idiot. Men and their pathetic egos cause so many problems in the world 🙄

I would say the woman is more to blame in this than him.

She is a young woman who only dates old, rich men and knows that her partner isn’t going to live for much longer.

If they’re not married or there’s a prenup then she’d have to think of another way to keep hold of her money.

The rich men are not going to be interested in her once she’s 30+

CannotDoThisAnymore · 31/05/2023 14:14

Thats because bringing up children is seen as the womans job and hes seen as a stud for having “still got it (up)” at 83. Shes 29 and his kids range from ages 22 and 33. Just weird and bizarre that a female, young enough to be his grandchild or child in this case, is willing to have sex with him 😬 bleugh shudder

Pansypotter123 · 31/05/2023 14:23

What would Michael Corleone make of it!

CharlotteRose90 · 31/05/2023 14:26

Christ This makes me feel sick, obviously she’s in it for the money once he’s gone but him. He’s nothing but a sleeze. Enjoy the kids you have stop making any more.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 31/05/2023 14:31

Pieceofpurplesky · 31/05/2023 13:26

When you compare it to all the shit Sam and Aaron Taylor Johnson got, it shows how the media view women

Hardly. Aaron Johnson was only 18 years old when the 42 year old Sam Taylor met him. She got justified criticism.

Opaque11 · 31/05/2023 14:31

Naunet · 31/05/2023 12:57

Selfish, vain idiot. Men and their pathetic egos cause so many problems in the world 🙄

Yea nothing about the gold digger 29 yo who chose to? Hmm

caramac04 · 31/05/2023 14:34

TomatoSandwiches · 31/05/2023 11:28

It's rather selfish and grim either way to me.

This

Greentime101 · 31/05/2023 14:39

I had an older father, it was a 2 generation gap - God I loved him but was a different relationship due to his age - I almost felt protective of him

I guess many men have babies and are not involved in their lives long term but I cannot fathom why you would WANT to do it - I guess he has the finances to outsource lots of things but not the feelings of the child

Tidsleytiddy · 31/05/2023 14:45

No fool like an old fool

stayflufft · 31/05/2023 14:46

83 year old sperm 😱

Hont1986 · 31/05/2023 14:47

I think it's rather cruel to have a baby knowing that their father is quite likely to die before they are even 10 years old.