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Eamonn Holmes tonight at 9 pm

348 replies

Ijustcantthinkofaname · 29/05/2023 20:56

Interview for 70 minutes (I think)
Wonder what will be said, don’t blame him at all for being angry and wanting his say.
Watched a few old This morning clips today of Ruth & Eamonn with Rylan etc and it was really entertaining, the squabbles etc, humour and interesting discussions.
It’s actually quite sad it’s all gone to pot now.

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newnamethanks · 30/05/2023 09:26

Agreed. If you lock out and ignore one side of any argument then you are on the side of bigotry and ignorance. Although I'll be hard pushed to consider voices on GB News as being anything other than rabble rousing right wing dribble. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

Housewife2010 · 30/05/2023 09:28

I always liked Eamonn and Ruth on This Morning. They seemed to be the only trained journalists too amongst a sea of reality stars, former children's presenters and former models and popstars.

Greenpin · 30/05/2023 09:33

This needs to stop . It should be investigated by properly by trained people. The trial by press and media is going to end in a tragedy. Whatever has gone on the people directly involved must be going through hell. There is only so much any of us can take.

Lifeomars · 30/05/2023 09:34

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:20

I will happily argue the point that I read both the guardian and mail because I was taught to for valid reasons.

It makes eyes pop at times, but it's hard to argue against ultimately, because the reasoning is sound.

Likewise with MN. A few of my friends know I use it and they know I value it because it can have a ripple effect and education effect which are positive. It's not all nest of vipers vapid shit.

Even making this point on here is worthwhile. Not because I'm left or right wing.

Sometimes you just have to look beyond who is saying things and where at WHY they are saying them, is it fair point and whether it has substance.

Getting tribal is for numbnuts.

This is me as well, I read the Guardian because it tends to be the least hysterical news outlet and has some excellent very talented investigative journalists. I also check out the Mail's take on things, browse on here and most fascinating of all, regularly visit the website of my local paper. I'm really intrigued by the things that get people in a lather, Meghan Markle, the awful tragedy of Nicola Bulley (sp?) and now this endless stuff about This Morning. It mystifies me why people get so invested in all the theories and speculation but it fascinates me at the same time. If Schofield is proved to be guilty of the things people are speculating about,then that is incredibly serious, but I am biding my time to see how it all pans out. The thing that I am following closely that will have huge consequences is the battle being waged by the Government and Johnson's supporters to avoid handing over the WhatsApp messages to the Covid enquiry. From where I am coming from, this is the real news

FMLWTF · 30/05/2023 09:50

I found Eamonn’s interview to be quite off the point actually. Apart from the taxis to PS’s flat (there will be a paper trail of this) he just slagged Schofield off for not being a nice guy, for being a narcissist (isn’t everyone in tv?) for not being liked or even a very good presenter - in constant to EH who is apparently universally beloved and can turn his hand to anything (random). What’s any of that got to do with his potential grooming of a minor for sex?

I found it very odd that he and Ruth were so close to the boy yet never mentioned the rumours to him. EH doesn’t strike me as someone who would shy away from that conversation if it bothered him.

There were several moments when his comments had clearly been cut in the editing suite because he didn’t seem to finish his thought. I presume the GB News lawyers were all over it and told them to cut large swathes of slander out.

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 09:52

Lifeomars · 30/05/2023 09:34

This is me as well, I read the Guardian because it tends to be the least hysterical news outlet and has some excellent very talented investigative journalists. I also check out the Mail's take on things, browse on here and most fascinating of all, regularly visit the website of my local paper. I'm really intrigued by the things that get people in a lather, Meghan Markle, the awful tragedy of Nicola Bulley (sp?) and now this endless stuff about This Morning. It mystifies me why people get so invested in all the theories and speculation but it fascinates me at the same time. If Schofield is proved to be guilty of the things people are speculating about,then that is incredibly serious, but I am biding my time to see how it all pans out. The thing that I am following closely that will have huge consequences is the battle being waged by the Government and Johnson's supporters to avoid handing over the WhatsApp messages to the Covid enquiry. From where I am coming from, this is the real news

For me it's all part of the same thing.

Power comes in various shapes and forms.

Politics is now very much celebrity and personality driven. I think they say that voters place about a third on personality, a third on policy and a third on party loyalty. Johnson got elected primarily because of of his celebrity power.

I like reality TV as much as I like politics because they are about power dynamics and relationships. People can get really snobby about it but I think if you can see how it works and plays out on the likes of Big Brother you can learn a lot about how politics works. Including how the producers manipulate things. (That's the use of professional PR spinners and the role of the press who have different media bias in real life and politics).

I don't think you can separate the celebrity and politics for this reason. Abuses of power occur with both and follow similar patterns.

I hang about on MN and like to talk about it to try and help people decode and understand what's going on for themselves.

If for no other reason that it makes my degree have value even though I've never used it myself.

Maybe one day it will make a difference and I won't feel so powerless against it.

PixieLaLa · 30/05/2023 10:35

MrTiddlesTheCat · 29/05/2023 22:15

For telling a rape victim he hoped she'd learnt her lesson about walking home alone?

Omg that’s awful I had never herd that!

Wheresthebeach · 30/05/2023 10:46

I understand that those who lost jobs after reporting PS are angry and want to be heard now. No doubt they were afraid of lawsuits if they spoke publicly before. There needs to be a full investigation into what happened - there is no way a 'runner' should have had the sort of access and high profile he did - its clear something else was going on.

Someone, senior at ITV needs to take the lead and deal with this before it just completely explodes. Massive lack of leadership.

luckylavender · 30/05/2023 11:00

ssd · 29/05/2023 21:29

Honestly all this shite must be interesting to someone..

100% this. It really is the gutter press. Eamon Holmes is a horrible man. And all this press is making it really horrible I imagine for the families on both sides. And who cares?

Hehehejeiej · 30/05/2023 11:11

It’s interesting that EH account of Holly Willoughby is the same as the posts about her on the ‘who is the worst celebrity you’ve met’ on here.
I like Alison but she is only OK for the Friday slot. I think the show needs a couple of journalists who also have a light side. I think Victoria Derbyshire would be great.

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 11:12

luckylavender · 30/05/2023 11:00

100% this. It really is the gutter press. Eamon Holmes is a horrible man. And all this press is making it really horrible I imagine for the families on both sides. And who cares?

People who work in the industry.
People who deal with safeguarding.
People who have been in coercive relationships and feel it needs to be dealt with more seriously.
People who are fed up of abuses of power.

That doesn't mean they condone the gutter press angle on it. It might mean they want the whole thing handled properly in the public interest.

Farmageddon · 30/05/2023 11:12

SchoolShenanigans · 30/05/2023 09:12

Off point, but I don't think that's right. I would never admit to my friends that I use Mumsnet, mainly because I think it's a fairly judgemental, negative environment, but I'm not convinced that makes it wrong.

There are lots of things people keep to themselves for various reasons. Everyone's entitled to private aspects of their life; it doesn't make it wrong.

I also find it very simplistic to view only "left" or "right", and base judgements on, 'left is kind and tolerant, right is bigoted'. In real life it doesn't work like that. Plenty of DM readers are going to be very kind hearted and positive and Ive known plenty of mean spirited left wingers. Its easy to call yourself left wing and hope that people perceive you a certain way, sadly, it's often not the case and actually you still need to be a good person IRL, not just politics.

I agree, the reductionist attitude to some on here about GB News is really unhelpful and immature. You don't have to agree with everything someone says to listen to them or allow them to speak.

It's similar to the Oxford students protesting against Kathleen Stock giving a talk there because they don't like what she has to say. And yet the people with knew jerk reactions like this tend to be the ones labelling everyone else as intolerant.

And GB News and other 'right wing' channels have given a platform to all sorts of people, including many gender critical women who were de-platformed and ignored in pretty much every leftie corner of the media.

Farmageddon · 30/05/2023 11:14

*knee jerk reactions

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 11:14

Hehehejeiej · 30/05/2023 11:11

It’s interesting that EH account of Holly Willoughby is the same as the posts about her on the ‘who is the worst celebrity you’ve met’ on here.
I like Alison but she is only OK for the Friday slot. I think the show needs a couple of journalists who also have a light side. I think Victoria Derbyshire would be great.

Good god, some reputable credible journalists on daytime TV?

You must not have the memo that daytime TV is trash time for students, retirees who only like fluff and women with small kids who brains turned to mush when they gave birth.

chupachucks · 30/05/2023 11:20

Some of the comments on here about GB make me 😂.

Cant let people of right-wing persuasion have a voice can we, actually as others have said at least they actually allow other opinions on the show even the ones they strongly disagree with.

Granted a few of the presenters and sections are defiantly not my thing and a bit out there, but that's called life. I actually enjoy GB news and I also watch and read a wide variety of other news outlets both left wing and right, its called getting views from all angles to form an option.

As for those Slating GB new who proudly proclaim they would never watch it, says more about their close pointed views than any body.

I found EH interview interesting, he has first hand experience of this story. So why should he not share his point of view, it seems the left now days prefers an echo chamber and if you don't comply you must be discredited or cancelled.

Softoprider · 30/05/2023 11:30

And the beat goes on..............

GoOnHoliday · 30/05/2023 11:33

Whilst I think there is more to come, it's going to be tonight after more from EH on GB news or the weekend.

The BBC has dropped their live feed and the mail online has dropped the issue down to a standard clutch of similar articles lower down.

A overhaul of safeguarding is needed.

bookworm44 · 30/05/2023 11:38

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/05/2023 09:16

I don't like him - but that doesn't mean he is corrupt.

I don't like Wooten either, but he gets some good points across.

I DO like Kim Woodburn - I think she's had a hard life, and is sometimes brusque, but I don't think she is cruel.

Really? Did you not see her in the BB house? Came across as an unhinged nasty piece of work.

Gothambutnotahamster · 30/05/2023 11:45

Completely agree @RedToothBrush

RedToothBrush · 30/05/2023 11:58

Last night sources close to Schofield said of the interview: ‘Phillip is not in a great place right now. If Eamonn Holmes wants to be that cruel to someone in Phillip’s position then that I think says more about Eamonn than Phillip.’

Not really. Not when it looks a lot like Phil abused his position. It's possible to think Eamonn is a bit of a dick but Phil knowingly entered an unwise relationship and have little sympathy for him when shit hits the fan.

The victim narrative belongs only to the naive eighteen year old kid.

If Phil isn't in a great place, tough shit. He should have protected himself by following safeguarding protocols regarding mentoring young adults like everyone else in similar positions has to. Or face the music like anyone in a similar position has to.

I have zero time for this naval gazing self indulgent bullshit when finally caught out after YEARS of lying about it without thought as to how it affected other parties.

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 12:01

bookworm44 · 30/05/2023 11:38

Really? Did you not see her in the BB house? Came across as an unhinged nasty piece of work.

She came across as a vulnerable woman who was pounced upon by the stronger housemates.

Remember when two of the Nolan sisters ganged up on her during a LW episode. It backfired on them so CN turned on the water works and claimed she was the victim.

EbonyRaven · 30/05/2023 12:04

TeaYarn · 30/05/2023 12:01

She came across as a vulnerable woman who was pounced upon by the stronger housemates.

Remember when two of the Nolan sisters ganged up on her during a LW episode. It backfired on them so CN turned on the water works and claimed she was the victim.

I see this totally differently. Kim Woodburn was very rude to several people in the BB house, and a couple of other women, and she was incredibly rude and curmudgeonly on Loose Women. People tried to turn Coleen and her sister into the bad guys. Fact is they did nothing wrong. Can't stand KW and how she is always played out as the victim.

GoOnHoliday · 30/05/2023 12:05

KW has an eccentric way of going about things.

I get them.impression if she is angry at someone she genuinely believes them to be in the wrong.

EbonyRaven · 30/05/2023 12:14

GoOnHoliday · 30/05/2023 12:05

KW has an eccentric way of going about things.

I get them.impression if she is angry at someone she genuinely believes them to be in the wrong.

Eccentric? No.

Rude? Yes.