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not to share my table at outdoor cafe

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ShirleyEyeRosebud · 29/05/2023 10:26

Went to my favourite cafe with my lovely dog for a relaxing Sunday morning brunch fry up.
All the tables were occupied, so we stood feeling a bit self-conscious waiting for about 20 minutes for a table to become free. In the meantime, a kind couple did ask if I wanted to share their table, but I didn’t want to disturb their relaxing morning so I said thanks for the offer but it’s ok.
So, eventually a table became free so I left my bag there to reserve it and went inside the cafe with the hound to order. When I was queuing up to order a woman asked if I had finished with my table so I said no I have just arrived. She then said are there many of you (obviously not) or can we share your table?
I said Sorry I have been waiting for a table and I would rather have it to myself.

AIBU?

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EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:24

@Cariadm · Today 00:04

So was the damn brexit referendum (a democratic vote!) and look where that got us!! I would have thought that would be evidence enough that a 'majority' outcome is not always the right or best one? 😱

The outcome here simply indicates that 55% of people voting surprisingly don't seem to know the difference between a TABLE and a PICNIC BENCH and obviously aren't aware of the generally accepted etiquette and protocols expected around both of those forms of seating?! 😳

A person expecting to be allowed who thinks it's acceptable to solely occupy a 6 seater picnic bench while they leisurely eat their lunch in peaceful uninterrupted solitude, while others perhaps need a seat, is simply an entitled and blinkered, self centred person of which there sadly seems to be many of these days? 🙄😪

100% this. ^ There's also the fact that many people don't realise they could have changed their vote.. Not to mention - the drip feed the OP fed along the way. AND the fact that many people cannot vote coz they are on the app. I have mentioned this several times but the OP and her little minion seems to be ignoring this salient piece of information.

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:30

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:10

The figures do not lie, so I have the Mumsnet mandate to occupy said bench on my own, with or without trusty hound.

I’m wondering if photographic evidence of the offending benches might help the minority 45% see the error of their ways?

I will be returning to the scene of the crime this weekend so I’ll see what I can do.

You just won't admit you're wrong will you?

Maybe you should take @AnarchoTyrannosaurus with you. You can have a bench each. Or something like this. Suit you 2 down to the ground. 😆

not to share my table at outdoor cafe
AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:30

Seems democracy isn't your thing then EbonyRaven. Not if the result isn't to your liking. 🤔🧐

PatAndMat · 01/06/2023 00:32

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:10

The figures do not lie, so I have the Mumsnet mandate to occupy said bench on my own, with or without trusty hound.

I’m wondering if photographic evidence of the offending benches might help the minority 45% see the error of their ways?

I will be returning to the scene of the crime this weekend so I’ll see what I can do.

OP
Are you really up for another thread like this.

But a pic of offending benches would be good. I suspect they’re like all the other bus sized benches we see outside cafes and pubs.

Will you also be getting 6 people to sit at them aswell please. For scale.

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:34

Maybe you should take @AnarchoTyrannosauruswith you. You can have a bench each. Or something like this. Suit you 2 down to the ground.

Oh I thought you were coming to look for me with your mates. Changed your mind then? 😉

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:35

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:30

Seems democracy isn't your thing then EbonyRaven. Not if the result isn't to your liking. 🤔🧐

NO.

NOT WHEN the votes are skewed, because the OP put in a drip feed.

NOT WHEN people said YANBU but then read more of her posts and changed their mind,

NOT WHEN people didn't realise they could change their votes.

NOT WHEN loads of people cannot vote as they are on the app

NOT WHEN 70% or more of the posts do NOT match up with the weak, straw poll.

If the POLL result had not been to YOUR liking, you would still have argued you were right.

Also the vote being 55% FOR the OP does not mean she is right FFS! 😂 You are not THAT clueless surely?!

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:36

PatAndMat · 01/06/2023 00:32

OP
Are you really up for another thread like this.

But a pic of offending benches would be good. I suspect they’re like all the other bus sized benches we see outside cafes and pubs.

Will you also be getting 6 people to sit at them aswell please. For scale.

Absolutely, and will be taking arse measurements

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Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:36

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 29/05/2023 10:26

Went to my favourite cafe with my lovely dog for a relaxing Sunday morning brunch fry up.
All the tables were occupied, so we stood feeling a bit self-conscious waiting for about 20 minutes for a table to become free. In the meantime, a kind couple did ask if I wanted to share their table, but I didn’t want to disturb their relaxing morning so I said thanks for the offer but it’s ok.
So, eventually a table became free so I left my bag there to reserve it and went inside the cafe with the hound to order. When I was queuing up to order a woman asked if I had finished with my table so I said no I have just arrived. She then said are there many of you (obviously not) or can we share your table?
I said Sorry I have been waiting for a table and I would rather have it to myself.

AIBU?

(1) 'In the meantime, a kind couple did ask if I wanted to share their table, but I didn’t want to disturb their relaxing morning so I said thanks for the offer but it’s ok.'
This couple, who CLEARLY knew the protocol around PICNIC TABLES/BENCHES were letting you know that it was fine for you to sit down at the bench they were occupying and fully expected to have to share if necessary, but oh no! Although you state your reason for not joining them was because you 'didn’t want to disturb THEIR relaxing morning' doesn't quite ring true does it?! 🤔

(2) 'When I was queuing up to order a woman asked if I had finished with my table so I said no I have just arrived. She then said are there many of you (obviously not) or can we share your table?
I said Sorry I have been waiting for a table and I would rather have it to myself.'

So...yet another person also seemed aware that it was perfectly acceptable and normal to share a 6 seater PICNIC BENCH but was just being polite in asking you if this was OK before sitting down!! I guarantee that she and her companions were NOT impressed by both your anti social behaviour and lack of common sense!! It's neither acceptable, rational or logical to deprive others of a seat just because, based on the fact that you had unbelievably waited 20 mins, meant that you then thought you were entitled to sit alone, oh sorry, I forgot about the dog!!! SERIOUSLY?! 😳😱

PatAndMat · 01/06/2023 00:38

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:36

Absolutely, and will be taking arse measurements

Oo lovely.👏👏

Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:40

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:30

Seems democracy isn't your thing then EbonyRaven. Not if the result isn't to your liking. 🤔🧐

Democracy is most definitely not what it's cracked up to be and, as in the referendum, the vote here had gone the other way you would be shouting loudly about how unfair it was for any reason you could think of!! 🙄

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:48

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:34

Maybe you should take @AnarchoTyrannosauruswith you. You can have a bench each. Or something like this. Suit you 2 down to the ground.

Oh I thought you were coming to look for me with your mates. Changed your mind then? 😉

No I'm still coming.

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:48

Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:40

Democracy is most definitely not what it's cracked up to be and, as in the referendum, the vote here had gone the other way you would be shouting loudly about how unfair it was for any reason you could think of!! 🙄

Exactly this.

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:50

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:36

Absolutely, and will be taking arse measurements

And I will be going to EVERY bench and table I see from now on, with one person at it, and sitting at it with them, no matter how many other ones are empty. Just to piss them off. And because I can. I REALLY hope one of these people is YOU one day Grin Or your little chum @AnarchoTyrannosaurus

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:51

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:50

And I will be going to EVERY bench and table I see from now on, with one person at it, and sitting at it with them, no matter how many other ones are empty. Just to piss them off. And because I can. I REALLY hope one of these people is YOU one day Grin Or your little chum @AnarchoTyrannosaurus

I’ll set my hound on you!

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EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:54

ShirleyEyeRosebud · 01/06/2023 00:51

I’ll set my hound on you!

He won't be much of a match for mine.

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:56

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AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:56

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:48

No I'm still coming.

Yay.

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:57

Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:40

Democracy is most definitely not what it's cracked up to be and, as in the referendum, the vote here had gone the other way you would be shouting loudly about how unfair it was for any reason you could think of!! 🙄

No I wouldn't. I'd accept the vote 😂

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:57

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Yep I am loaded, and yep I will probably put on loads of weight. More weight to bounce you little singletons off the end of the table for SIX you are occupying! Grin

Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:58

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:35

NO.

NOT WHEN the votes are skewed, because the OP put in a drip feed.

NOT WHEN people said YANBU but then read more of her posts and changed their mind,

NOT WHEN people didn't realise they could change their votes.

NOT WHEN loads of people cannot vote as they are on the app

NOT WHEN 70% or more of the posts do NOT match up with the weak, straw poll.

If the POLL result had not been to YOUR liking, you would still have argued you were right.

Also the vote being 55% FOR the OP does not mean she is right FFS! 😂 You are not THAT clueless surely?!

'Also the vote being 55% FOR the OP does not mean she is right FFS! 😂 You are not THAT clueless surely?!'

Oh but she most definitely is EbonyRaven as, going on the vote, she says she now has the 'Mumsnet mandate'?! 😱🙄
She just cannot accept that this is most definitely not a 'right or wrong' issue and is clearly just an indication that someone who feels justified, as she obviously does, to behave in such an entitled, self centred, anti social, churlish and graceless way has absolutely no awareness of just how awful this looks from the perspective of those who dare to challenge her and whom she chooses childishly to call names!! 😡

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:58

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:57

No I wouldn't. I'd accept the vote 😂

The way you have argued and cussed and raged on here there is no WAY you would have accepted anything other than what YOU wanted to hear! 😆

AnarchoTyrannosaurus · 01/06/2023 00:58

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:35

NO.

NOT WHEN the votes are skewed, because the OP put in a drip feed.

NOT WHEN people said YANBU but then read more of her posts and changed their mind,

NOT WHEN people didn't realise they could change their votes.

NOT WHEN loads of people cannot vote as they are on the app

NOT WHEN 70% or more of the posts do NOT match up with the weak, straw poll.

If the POLL result had not been to YOUR liking, you would still have argued you were right.

Also the vote being 55% FOR the OP does not mean she is right FFS! 😂 You are not THAT clueless surely?!

Oh your rage is funny 😂

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:59

Cariadm · 01/06/2023 00:58

'Also the vote being 55% FOR the OP does not mean she is right FFS! 😂 You are not THAT clueless surely?!'

Oh but she most definitely is EbonyRaven as, going on the vote, she says she now has the 'Mumsnet mandate'?! 😱🙄
She just cannot accept that this is most definitely not a 'right or wrong' issue and is clearly just an indication that someone who feels justified, as she obviously does, to behave in such an entitled, self centred, anti social, churlish and graceless way has absolutely no awareness of just how awful this looks from the perspective of those who dare to challenge her and whom she chooses childishly to call names!! 😡

Agree!

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:59

My rage is NOT as funny as your nonsense @AnarchoTyrannosaurus Grin

EbonyRaven · 01/06/2023 00:59

AND THAT IS A WRAP!

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