Does anyone else not care about Philip and holly?

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Honestly whats this obsession with them?
Couldn't give a toss. Why are people so invested in two people who host a breakfast programme?

Just people on this planet, like we all are.

This is how you feel, or you're saying that's how people are treating the situation?

I'm not invested and I dont ever watch daytime TV as its shit but after operation Yew Tree I am quite surprised people think its not important. Safeguarding and potential abuse being covered up is pretty serious and if a major tv channel has done that then of course it should be news.

Probably a bit of both.

If there was grooming, that’s disgusting and should merit an inquiry at ITV.

But the amount of timeline-checking, body-language reading, Twitter quoting etc going on all over MN and elsewhere suggests some kind of drama feeding frenzy.

And I’m not immune - I’m here reading it, with everyone else.

I care about MN being constantly used for shilling/PR purposes.

I care about those who work behind the scenes, and that they are treated well. Which may not have been the case.

I've never watched this morning.

I read one of Holly Willoughby's baby books and retrospectively I think she gave terrible advice.

You don’t have to like her. But that comment was shockingly vitriolic. I actually think you should be banned from Mumsnet for that level of nastiness, though I haven’t reported because I really wanted to detail what makes your post so disgusting on a predominantly women’s discussion forum.

I wouldn't have phrased it quite like that but I agree with the sentiment. Holly isn't a sparkling, witty presenter. She's pretty anodyne and a lot of her focus is on what she wears which she's monetised (no judgement there, no doubt a lucrative side business).

In fairness, that probably passes for a fluff show like TM but I don't think she's a particularly talented presenter. And just to even it up, I'd put Phil, Ant and Dec in the same boat. A&D are reasonably funny but they're mostly reading from an autocue.

Surely it's a good time to look at the stranglehold these four have had on the prime time shows and freshen it up?

Yes quite, I'm not sure why some are failing to grasp this quite simple concept.

I also agree. Being concerned about a major cover up for bullying and abuse of power (and potentially even more disturbing predatory behaviour) by a major TV channel is hardly "being obsessed". Is it really that hard to understand why this might anger and disturb people? (I say this as someone who has never watched a single episode of TM)

It really isn't about whether one watches it or not, and no-one is inferior if they do watch it, but agree with pps, it's a safeguarding issue

The aspect of it that concerns me is the lynch-mob mentality that's developing on social media. I can take PS or leave him as a TV personality.

I'm only following the story as it seems there was a cover up. Indeed after all the stories about Saville and Rolf etc, you would have thought this would not happen again.

This!

Yes quite, I'm not sure why some are failing to grasp this quite simple concept.

They're falling for the spin that this was a relationship. It wasn’t. It was grooming and abuse.

Exactly this. I said to DH last night hopefully this will ensure that these big companies actually start to do something about these things as easrly as they become aware. It's clear these issues have been raised for some time now and they have ignored, much like the BBC (I appreciate not quite the same situation but clearly the same attitudes towards untouchable 'stars').

My interest in HW extends as far as I quite like how she dresses.

my interest in PS doesn’t extend that far.

I’m interested in it purely from a safeguarding POV also, and whether systems at ITV have failed. Not interested in being part of a ‘lynch mob’ but feel this needs to be properly and thoroughly investigated now.

Certainly they should be looking at why certain people have been ‘phased out’ after raising concerns.

Some of the attitudes on here are awful. No one should care about them as individuals but everyone should care about how this sort of things goes on at these big organisations and so much is covered up.

There has very clearly been things going on for a while that ITV knew about, if a person in a powerful position who was 50+yo was accused of an affair with an 18 yo worker this would be properly investigated in many companies, not just the person asked if its true. Did they truly investigate properly, someone must have known for it to come to light in the 1st place? It's irrelevant if they were legal or not. Its abuse of power at the least, grooming at worse IMO.

I work full time and have never had time (or inclination) to watch trashy daytime TV.

Television is a nasty nepotistic, exploitative and abusive industry. It's about time it had its moment of scrutiny.
It's amusing that it has been triggered by such anodyne bullshit as daytime TV.
There are a lot of very nervous people in the television business watching what is happening to Schofield and wondering if they're next.

Ooh pinto you are fancy

For those who think they are so clever that they don’t watch This Morning would you be okay if one of the presenters of the highbrow intellectual programmes you watch had been grooming a young boy?

I care about it … I have friends that work there who have had a terrible time of it. Can’t wait for the bullies to be named