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Holly willoboughly

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midnightblue12 · 27/05/2023 21:03

Ok I know I've spelt her surname wrong... but here we are. We all know who I'm talking about!

I just don't understand why social media has turned on her, almost blaiming her for allowing Phillip S antics to go on?

Why is she responsible for his actions????

And for those saying "she must've known"... maybe she didn't! Maybe she kept out of it or maybe she didn't know the full one and puts.
Why so she being Blaine's. Am I missing something??!

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 29/05/2023 11:34

benfoldsfivefan · 29/05/2023 11:29

The runner and Holly after the NTA awards in January 2020:

https://twitter.com/missglasgow88/status/1662559180287365121

This has been posted already.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 29/05/2023 11:41

She turned a blind eye to be in with the clique.
Has said many times that if it all ended she'd be alright as all she needs are her kids and husband.
Interesting then that in the media storm she finds herself in, in clings on for dear life.

Meltinthemiddle · 29/05/2023 11:49

Well PS seems to diminish the bullying and toxic culture and is actually defending the show.

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 12:58

PS' statement was odd. If numerous people are complaining about the atmosphere and culture, it's tone deaf to say everything was rosy. He seems to be hoping he can frame this as an argument between him and Eamonn. He's deliberately ignoring all the others who have spoken out about it in the hope the public will ignore them too.

Mrsjayy · 29/05/2023 13:01

T M was all "nothing to see here," today god bless Alison and Dermot they deserve a medal 😃

Phillip Schofield has no reps he's gone rougue and has zero self awareness.

parliamoglesga · 29/05/2023 13:01

I don’t think it’s her fault but I do think the sickly sweet “oh phil I’ll always stand by you” shite was a massive faux pas

Mrsjayy · 29/05/2023 13:02

Rogue*

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2023 13:11

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 12:58

PS' statement was odd. If numerous people are complaining about the atmosphere and culture, it's tone deaf to say everything was rosy. He seems to be hoping he can frame this as an argument between him and Eamonn. He's deliberately ignoring all the others who have spoken out about it in the hope the public will ignore them too.

The statement had a thinly veiled swipe at Dr Ranj and arguably Eamonn in it. You can't claim things were great whilst simultaneously claiming there were others with a grudge and taking a swipe at them. It's nonsensical.

He is treating people with contempt again to expect the public to buy into his narrative after all the lies he's admitted to.

It's staggering in its level of narcissism. It just proves a lot of the stuff others have claimed.

Anything less than dignified silence from Schofield or welcoming a thorough investigation by an independent party is just more self indulgent bullshit about protecting his reputation.

We are way past that point. He's broken that trust and his word can't be taken at face value.

He hasn't grasped this concept yet. He still wants to asset control / power / influence over the situation. And that's the last thing - in a conversation about abuses of power - that you should do.

Tone deaf nails it.

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 13:26

I used to work in this area and I've been thinking what I would have done if I was advising PS or HW or even This Morning because they're completely missing the point.
They think they work in a rarified atmosphere and so the plebs can't understand and will trust what they say.
But actually a lot of the public are invested in safeguarding young people, in countering grooming and have experience of workplace bullying.
And nearly everyone knows that for the people at the top of the workplace or the bully, they don't see the problems. Hence saying 'I didn't see it' or trotting out Gyles, Alison and Dermot to say 'this is a happy place' doesn't actually cut it. Most people will assume that means they were either protected from it, unobservant or lying.
HW should have said nothing and taken her holiday. PS should have said he didn't ever stand in the way of an internal investigation (if he didn't) or he now supports a thorough enquiry so everyone can feel confident that any toxicity has been addressed (if he did lie to an internal investigation previously). This Morning should have said 'we're rocked by this. MH and staff wellbeing is very important to us and we're recommitting to doing everything we can with every level of staff to ensure this is a supportive and creative environment.'
Instead they're saying 'la,la,la, nothing to see here'. It's bizarre.

Inkanta · 29/05/2023 13:27

It's staggering in its level of narcissism. It just proves a lot of the stuff others have claimed

Yes I think so. It's either or .. superiority/arrogance OR the victim. Nothing in between, or accountability or humility or signs of humble introspection.

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 13:34

I get the impression that the millennial grads who were fed DEI are the downfall of these people.

We saw the same with Prince Harry, the start up Bank earlier this year, Bud light and Target. They are terrible at PR.

Apparently ESG scores are behind it. Companies are told to employ woke incompetents to get the ESG score up. They can't obtain loans unless they do and Stonewall is one that has an Index that feeds into the score.

Whilst the woke grads get the score up, what you see with ITV run by a woke woman too, is another ESG and safeguarding fail.

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 13:42

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 13:37

Palace PR were working very hard as we see now with Harry what they were dealing with.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11854497/SVB-hired-woke-board-obsessed-diversity-invested-5BN-healthier-planet.html

The UK government should really put a stop to this ESG protection racquet nonsense, we have enough issues. It would also put the UK globally financially ahead if they make UK companies ditch it.

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 13:46

I don't think having an environmental, social & governance policy is to blame for this. Arguably having an ESG policy that worked and was adhered to, would have stopped all of this much earlier for This Morning. It's meant to prioritise staff wellbeing, whistleblowing and address bullying.

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2023 13:47

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 13:26

I used to work in this area and I've been thinking what I would have done if I was advising PS or HW or even This Morning because they're completely missing the point.
They think they work in a rarified atmosphere and so the plebs can't understand and will trust what they say.
But actually a lot of the public are invested in safeguarding young people, in countering grooming and have experience of workplace bullying.
And nearly everyone knows that for the people at the top of the workplace or the bully, they don't see the problems. Hence saying 'I didn't see it' or trotting out Gyles, Alison and Dermot to say 'this is a happy place' doesn't actually cut it. Most people will assume that means they were either protected from it, unobservant or lying.
HW should have said nothing and taken her holiday. PS should have said he didn't ever stand in the way of an internal investigation (if he didn't) or he now supports a thorough enquiry so everyone can feel confident that any toxicity has been addressed (if he did lie to an internal investigation previously). This Morning should have said 'we're rocked by this. MH and staff wellbeing is very important to us and we're recommitting to doing everything we can with every level of staff to ensure this is a supportive and creative environment.'
Instead they're saying 'la,la,la, nothing to see here'. It's bizarre.

I think this sums up well why the whole thing has pissed me off so much.

DH does activities that involve safeguarding children and I'm very much aware of the subject from that and from other concerns. The stuff that he has to do and the standards he has to uphold are quite rightly high. Some of these are not to protect the child or young person but to protect him and any organisation he is working on behalf of.

What Phil Schofield has done is say "oh well none of these standards apply to me. I'm above all this. Because of my status on TV. And I can lie about it and get away with it. Because I'm a star. He has brought his whole team into disrepute in part simply due to his actions and because of the responsibility to do basic due diligence - which is fucking obvious with the award ceremonies - just wasn't done.

The consequences of this in the 'real world' are equally fair reaching. You just don't do it. No excuses. Why should any of these fuckers get special treatment and walk away?

If what I've seen has substance, it does look like people will walk away because they've had an expensive professional clean up of their mess too. It's galling.

And THAT'S why it matters. People in the public end set an example for the rest of society. Cos they have influence and status. If whistleblowers are hung out to dry then it discourages it in other areas of society.

To say I don't get it or it doesn't matter says an awful lot about the person saying it. It's not about famous individuals. It's about a wider attitude by people in positions of power and how accountability doesn't apply to them.

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2023 13:49

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 13:46

I don't think having an environmental, social & governance policy is to blame for this. Arguably having an ESG policy that worked and was adhered to, would have stopped all of this much earlier for This Morning. It's meant to prioritise staff wellbeing, whistleblowing and address bullying.

Absolutely spot on.

The work place policies and adherence to them need looking at.

The Runner should never have been anywhere near an awards ceremony without questions raised formally.

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 14:00

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 13:46

I don't think having an environmental, social & governance policy is to blame for this. Arguably having an ESG policy that worked and was adhered to, would have stopped all of this much earlier for This Morning. It's meant to prioritise staff wellbeing, whistleblowing and address bullying.

The ESG score is why they handled it so bady. It has been noted how badly PR crisis management have got things, from the 2020 come out when this first surfaced to more recent PR, that's because they have not the same calibre staff they once had. Look at he difference in Prince Harry with two PR teams.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1663031352294273025?cxt=HHwWgsCzvYWNo5QuAAAA

James Lindsay has been tweeting about the ESG stuff for a while.

We can agree to disagree.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1663031352294273025?cxt=HHwWgsCzvYWNo5QuAAAA

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2023 14:15

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 14:00

The ESG score is why they handled it so bady. It has been noted how badly PR crisis management have got things, from the 2020 come out when this first surfaced to more recent PR, that's because they have not the same calibre staff they once had. Look at he difference in Prince Harry with two PR teams.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1663031352294273025?cxt=HHwWgsCzvYWNo5QuAAAA

James Lindsay has been tweeting about the ESG stuff for a while.

We can agree to disagree.

Oh FFS

Stop trying to piggie back other subjects onto this. It's starting to get tedious and into conspiracy theory level bollocks.

Which is the last thing anyone needs as it undermines the really important issues in this case. It needs to stay focused on Schofield and ITVs conduct.

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 14:24

Oh FFS

Stop trying to control others, we are allowed to disagree with you.

No one human including you is correct about everything.

You, are an excellent linguistic who goes around summarising what others said to a very good standard.

RedToothBrush · 29/05/2023 14:26

GoOnHoliday · 29/05/2023 14:24

Oh FFS

Stop trying to control others, we are allowed to disagree with you.

No one human including you is correct about everything.

You, are an excellent linguistic who goes around summarising what others said to a very good standard.

I've made my point about hijacking. It's not necessarily for your benefit.

Florenz · 29/05/2023 14:36

Good Morning is dead in the water. If a show that is supposed to be people's friendly companion in the morning has to spend so much time defending itself as being a toxic place to work, it's time to cut bait and move on.

Mirabai · 29/05/2023 14:54

The morning offering will be rebranded Rise and Shine! with a new cast and a new sofa and life will continue much as before…

HadleyVaughn · 29/05/2023 15:24

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12135531/Phillip-Schofields-comments-younger-lover-resurface-ominous-video.html

If I'm still getting away with it, I'll be a happy man': Phillip Schofield's comments to his younger lover caught on video as he issues defiant statement amid storm over 'toxic' This Morning culture
Phillip Schofield joked about 'getting away' with things when asked by his younger lover where he saw himself in the future.
The presenter's lover was working as an ITV production assistant at the time, and in a showreel filmed in 2014 the pair are seen joking with one another about Schofield's long career on This Morning.
In the video seen by MailOnline, the 61-year-old presenter - who today issued an extraordinary statement hitting back at claims of a 'toxic' work culture - jokes that he 'can't find a way out' of presenting This Morning after having hosted the show for 12 years at the time.

Phillip Schofield's comments to younger lover resurface

The presenter's lover was working as an ITV production assistant at the time and in a showreel filmed in 2014 the pair are seen joking with one another.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12135531/Phillip-Schofields-comments-younger-lover-resurface-ominous-video.html

Tidsleytiddy · 29/05/2023 15:41

Slimeball

LaffTaff · 29/05/2023 16:07

BonnieBobbin · 29/05/2023 12:58

PS' statement was odd. If numerous people are complaining about the atmosphere and culture, it's tone deaf to say everything was rosy. He seems to be hoping he can frame this as an argument between him and Eamonn. He's deliberately ignoring all the others who have spoken out about it in the hope the public will ignore them too.

Given that the man is a (proven) pathological liar, you can safely presume that whatever statement he makes, the opposite will be true.
It would appear that reality hasn't quite hit him yet - because no one is going to believe a word now that comes out of his smarmy mouth.