Holly willoboughly

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Ok I know I've spelt her surname wrong... but here we are. We all know who I'm talking about!

I just don't understand why social media has turned on her, almost blaiming her for allowing Phillip S antics to go on?

Why is she responsible for his actions????

And for those saying "she must've known"... maybe she didn't! Maybe she kept out of it or maybe she didn't know the full one and puts.
Why so she being Blaine's. Am I missing something??!

I think it’s stupid that people think she should have given up her job and damaged her career because ITV didnt want to fire this man and wanted to cover it up. Do you think every other woman in the building that worked closely with him should have quit too? It would have achieved nothing, ITV were the problem if they new about it.

HW was manipulated by PS. I have been in a similar position (different context). She was a loyal friend to him for years before this happened. We are outsiders looking in on the situation, so it's very easy to judge/be objective of what's right and wrong. She was probably being lied to and manipulated by PS but didn't realise until recently. She will be feeling betrayed and foolish. I wish I had said my piece when I was in that position. I get so angry now that I didn't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm sure HW will be feeling the same. Problem is for her, she is famous, I'm not. Give her some slack and understanding.

She damaged her career by standing by him for years. She is damaging her career right now by putting out disingenuous statements. If she had stepped down before he was pushed she would’ve kept her reputation in tact and people would be congratulating her on her integrity.

Exactly. She’s utterly transparent and stupid enough to believe people will believe her version. Pathetic woman.

I don't think HW acted differently in the last few weeks because PS' popularity was dipping. I think she was incadescent that PS let his brother be in the company of her DCs when PS knew about his brother's criminal behaviour with children. That was probably the step too far that made her take a stand.
She also might have known that the runner was getting ready to tell the truth about their affair (as other people seemed to know it was coming).
An age-gap 'romance' suddenly looked very different when PS' brother was convicted.

Give her “some slack and understanding.”
What a joke.

There is a disgusting tone on MN about this. It’s like they want to normalise women turing a blind eye to sexual misconduct. I wonder what the agenda is?

Some of the comments on these threads are infantile.

No-one knows for sure what goes on behind closed doors. There’s no way PS would tell her the truth. So all HW would have had is the same rumours everyone else heard and his lie that they were untrue.

I’ve said this before that if women had to resign every time we have to work with arseholes we’d all be out of a job.

The agenda is anti-misogynist: holding men accountable for their own crimes not the nearest available woman.

If Holly's career was ended today, I highly doubt that her children would go hungry.

She needs to go

I think in workplaces it's rare that managers know how to deal with bullies or people like PS. Usually everyone just leaves if they can. I'm pleased the press got hold of this and ITV had to act in the end. I do think PS was surrounded by enablers and everyone knew.

You don’t think PS is being held accountable? He has been pushed from his job, the press are reporting on it and it’s clear they are building up to a bigger story.

How much more accountable would you like PS to be held?

Why should his presenting partner who stood by him and is now putting out laughably disingenuous statements to distance herself from what she knew be protected from people discussing her online? She is an adult after all.

I think she is becoming a scapegoat here. I agree that people are losing perspective on what has actually happened and her part in it.

When there’s an office affair going on, everyone knows about it - even when the two people concerned think they don’t.

How did Eamonn, Ruth, Dan Wootton and possibly Rylan all know about the “affair” but Holly didn’t? Eammon even says he complained to bosses about it.

I might believe it if P met MM in a bar one night and they mainly met at P’s house but MM arrived at the studios in a highly coveted role as runner. He would have been introduced as P’s protégé from the drama school he sponsored. He would be known as Phil’s pal, and Holly - as P’s BFF would have been fully aware of their developing “relationship”.

Apparently it ended badly - when MM was transferred to Loose Women and Ruth Langsford complained about his treatment- again, all without Holly’s knowledge.

You can’t say you’re someone’s BFF for years, holiday together, cry and cuddle on the sofa - then claim you didn’t know about his private life. Holly, really! It’s like Dec saying he didn’t know Ant liked a drink.

She’s been very unwise to lie. P is now like a trapped rat and may start to fight back and drop her in it. Ditto Eamonn who seems to be a loose cannon right now, plus P’s agency who just dropped him - Holly left them acrimoniously, so they may have an axe to grind with her.

Also, if this relationship really was unwise but not illegal- why the fuck did he lie to everyone about it? If everyone is so cool about a 50 plus man “dating” a teenager who he got a prestigious job for - what’s the problem, why lie to your employers and co-workers?

Holly will be the next to go.

I've known workplace bullies and sexual pests. Back in the 70s I reported my boss to the big bosses secretary and was fired. So kept my head down after that

Frankly Holly ought to move to another station and start afresh if she wants to salvage her own career. She probably took PS at his word - they were besties, after all. Eventually with his brother's conviction the truth was going to come out especially as MM no longer wanted to participate in the lie and told his lawyer as much. ITV are tainted by what they knew or didn't - it no longer matters. The programme is tainted whoever presents it now.

How did Eamonn, Ruth, Dan Wootton and possibly Rylan all know about the “affair” but Holly didn’t
Yes I think that's nearer the truth of the matter.

But they didn’t know. And they have never said they knew. They may have suspected. But at no point until after it was revealed did anyone of those folks say they knew or quit because of it. Not one. Saying it after is very different and even eamon with his vitriol has never actually said he knew.

How did Eamonn, Ruth, Dan Wootton and possibly Rylan all know about the “affair” but Holly didn’t? Eammon even says he complained to bosses about it

no he didn’t say that, he reported gossip and speculation and itv investigated both parties denied it. Strenuously. There was no evidence, you cannot fire someone based on suspicion and rumour. It is illegal

What source is this please.

Why?

Where did I say thought that?

Where did I say anything about online protection either?

PS is an adult male and solely responsible for his own behaviour.

Sorry I'm trying to find it dh said he had a notification on his ipad, but I can't find it .