To say it’s “cliquey” not “clicky”

[Fortunesmiles]

Just that, really. I keep seeing things like “the parents at school are very clicky” - no! They form cliques, not clicks. Not normally one to comment on this stuff, but that one really makes me cringe!

I’ve never seen ‘paninos’ advertised. That’s sort of sweet but I would also just order something else.

If it were not for the many weirdnesses of the British class system (from which I as a foreigner seem to be somewhat exempt), I probably wouldn’t care so much about the Anglo

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…..I wouldn’t care so much about the silly Anglophone lisping. But in the context of the many, many class signifiers here it simply feels like a cheap attempt at one upmanship. That sounds ridiculous to anyone with even a basic level of Spanish.

I’ve never seen ‘paninos’ advertised. That’s sort of sweet but I would also just order something else.

Regardless of whether they are listed as 'paninos' on the menu, what do you say if you are ordering two of them?

That's exactly it. If you don’t have a particular sound in your everyday speech. When you're learning a language, one of the key things is practice, practice, practice! For fluency among native speakers, immersion is important, the longer the better, 6 months is a reasonable starting point. I remember how hard it was to get the 'r' sound in French, or rather, as near as an English person can hope for.

You don't see 'spaghettos' advertised either. The French don't worry themselves about stuff like this. They are quite happy to print spaghettis on menus.

I don’t think you necessarily have to do that though if you don’t want to - when using eg the word loch as someone with an English accent I mean. I am half French and half British (bilingual) and i don’t expect people speaking English with an English accent to practise saying words that have been adopted into English like “croissant” in a French accent when everyone knows what they mean anyway

In my region the use of the word ‘panino’ is very uncommon. This makes me sad. You have to order ‘a panini’ or be thought weird, unless you are European, and even then you risk a misunderstanding. If I want more than one, I order ‘X panini’ but I think most people order ‘X paninis’.

Being fluent in several languages, I agonise about this sort of thing more than strictly necessary. It really bugs me to deliberately mispronounce words, or mess up grammar, in order to fit with standard English use, but on the other hand, switching languages for pronunciation or grammar is like moving from one place in my brain to another and feels pompous if it's just for one word. It's very frustrating! I tend to switch anyway more often than not, because I'm a bit tired of my name being chronically mispronounced, and because I'm a bit tired of monolingual anglophones appearing to make no effort (even though they probably are). I also recognise that this isn't rational!

What Addams family song? What are you talking about?

Have you been living on Mars? Everyone always said “I’m well”
until about five years ago when “I’m good” suddenly sprang up. To my ears it’s just as awful now as it was then

Wrong. Its “Nn-doo-yah”

Gules-means-red, for one. Post above yours

I remember a MN thread years ago which exploded into a massive argument about how to pronounce 'croissant.'

Half the thread thought anyone pronouncing it 'Cwahsohn' or something similar were pretentious arseholes. The other half were genuinely baffled about how else you could possibly say it. I mean, it's not an English word. You could go for 'Croy Sant' just to be bloody minded, but why on earth would you?

Classic MN

😄 Don't hear that one enough to get too wound up. Have to say it in my head before saying it out loud!

Saw this and thought of this thread 😂

I saw that recently and it took me 10 minutes to figure out what the bloody hell 'colon' was supposed to be.

I still haven't figured it out. Enlighten me?

She means 'cologne'.

Remember the episode of 'Dinner Ladies' when one of the ladies tries on her new perfume, and she rushes up to the maintenance man and asks 'Can you smell my Charlie?'. I still miss Victoria Wood.

Are you sure about that? 😀

I know that with Twitter, you never can tell!

But, the only reason i know is because the Tweet was part of a big thread with other people making similar comments. And after about 10 minutes, the context fell into place.