To say it’s “cliquey” not “clicky”

[Fortunesmiles]

Just that, really. I keep seeing things like “the parents at school are very clicky” - no! They form cliques, not clicks. Not normally one to comment on this stuff, but that one really makes me cringe!

I have an issue with ‘chorizo’. If you are pronouncing the hard Anglo ‘ch’ and the Anglo ‘o’, what is the point of the ‘th’? It is almost always less subtle than someone who knows Spanish would use. In this linguistic context it just sounds pretentious to me. There’s a can of worms!

The bigger thing is that Brits often have a glass of ‘RioCa’ with their chorizo. I think you are the only nation on earth that uses a hard C for the J in Rioja, instead of an H. Where did that come from? Ironic in a country so class conscious about its choritho.

To put it another way, I've never heard someone say 'unick' for 'unique'.

British people play fast and loose with foreign pronunciation though. Like, I always hear 'tor-teeya' but also 'pie-ella'.

What's your stance on people who insist on saying I-be-tha (for Ibiza) but deride cho-ree-tho as silly, or are consistent and say cho-rit-zo and i-bee-za? The Z sound should be the same for both Spanish words, yet people manage to overlook that consistently...

You could duck the issue and say the 'z' as the English 'z', which is what Latin Americans do (they make sausages too).

'Choritzo' is always wrong. It's not Italian.

I have made a shift over the years, I now try REALLY hard not to be pedantic about grammar and spelling. I think many of us have done the same. I do think it has led to a downward spiral. Messages (everywhere, not just on Mumsnet) have changed - where the main problems used to be confusions of "there" and "they're" and "their," or "of" used where "have" should be used, now there are messages with no punctuation, no pronouns, multiple words spelled ambiguously, grammar just ignored altogether. It's actually becoming difficult, even unpleasant, to read some posts. I feel like I have to sit down with a pencil and work out the poster's meaning by substituting different possible meanings of a word or sentence. Sometimes I cannot work out what the poster is trying to communicate.

I think it would be funny if the internet met its end via the degradation of grammar and spelling.

I would pronounce it as clicky but should I ever need to type it would be cliquey. I'm not going to try to attempt a foreign spin on it and make myself look a tit.

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Thanks for sharing your pointless comment, OP. Sweet of you. Life-changing, in fact.

I cringe at posters like you who have to blether on about every little error, not posters who mis-say things.

It's En do ya.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I do it myself. Are you perhaps projecting?

Quite.

I'd have to boil wash my hands to get them small enough to type on the phone keyboard any other way!

Never heard snottiness about "typing on phones with thumbs" before. Is it a new "teeny tiny hands" thing? Most odd.

You’re good,@CharlottenBurger

The weird thing about I bee tha, aside from the lisp within the Anglo pronunciation, is that people who do this are pronouncing the two ‘I’s differerently. That is also incorrect Spanish.

Nope - I think that’s just people getting it wrong.

Correct.

Ug totally op!
It's not Haitch either! (Unless you're Irish!)

And people using tired, old clichés like “pearl clutchers”, too.

Aussie pronunciation of crèche (craysh) is one that used to make me want to chuck a brick at the telly, but that was ages ago, when dds at home were still addicted to Neighbours.

The US pronunciation of premiere (as in film, pls imagine the grave accent on the penultimate e) - ‘premEER’ is another that brings out my inner homicidal maniac.

Yes, they say 'eye-beetha'. Don't get me started on Majorca. I did meet someone (a man) who told me that Majorca and Mallorca were not the same island. Said I was making 'a common mistake' because I said they were.

Doesn't stop people saying it though, does it?

@JeandeServiette me too, I'm not big by any stretch of the imagination but I seem to have man hands! The nails would have to go too before my chubby fingers could even hit the correct letter...
I've just walked the dog around the cricket pitch, answered a text from DM and I've never been more conscious of using my thumbs to reply 👀 crazy times!

What is the correct pronunciation of Ibiza then? I say 'ib-eetha' (short 'i' at the start) rather than eye-beetha, but am I still wrong?

Rhymes with eat pizza doesn’t eat?

Corrected version:

One would think the 21st Century decriers would have the wit not to use tired, old clichés like “pearl clutchers”.

Can anyone explain RioCa yo me, per earlier post? Maybe I am missing something. (The rest of us say RioHa. So do the online Spanish dictionaries)

@CharlottenBurger ?

I'm glad I read this as it's settled this one for me.

I've always said "kleek", but when I hear people say "click" it made me think I must have it wrong.

I will retain my original pronunciation