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To ask why so many child-free people are on Mumsnet?

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DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:26

I already know this is going to be divisive and I'm hesitating before I even type this. I don't mean this in a snarky or judgemental way at all. It's just a straightforward question that I've been pondering. It seems there's a lot of posters on here who are child-free by choice (I'm not talking about people dealing with infertility who would dearly love to be parents). And I was wondering why, as this is predominantly a forum for getting or giving parental advice? For questions about trying to understand their friends with kids, I absolutely get it. But I see plenty of threads about various parenting issues and there's always people saying things like "I don't have kids, but..."

TIA for not taking offence!!

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Mutabiliss · 21/05/2023 23:50

I joined years before I had a child when I was looking for paint colours. Mumsnet shows up near the top of Google searches and I got sucked in to the general chat.

Parenting is only a part of this forum, the same as it's only a part of parents' lives. I have interests beyond my child.

HeidiUpTheMountain · 21/05/2023 23:51

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:48

I said child-free by choice.

It’s an odd distinction - I wanted kids but all my pregnancies failed. I’m still no more qualified to offer parenting advice than anyone who knew they never wanted children. Why do you feel otherwise? Or is this just another post designed to make women who don’t want children branded as some sort of weirdo outsiders?

Hawkins0001 · 21/05/2023 23:52

@DarlingClementine85
All the Various chat categories, how many of them are strictly parent or parent related.
Then you still have around 60-70% of threads not related to being a parent.

Especially when you also consider the threads that end up in the daily mail, and most of those are not parental related.

Purpleknickers · 21/05/2023 23:53

MYOB and my child is now 32 been a poster for around 25 years

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:53

DreamingCatTwitches · 21/05/2023 23:49

When my kids were young and I was actually struggling- it was so relentless with so many impossible choices, it used to really upset me how many people without kids would slag off parents for needing to make impossible decisions in the moment on Mumsnet.

A lot of teachers posted threads slagging off parents after disclosing they weren’t parents themselves, just letting it be known how much they hate us and why, and then encouraging others to join in and stick the boot in.

There is something really messed up about joining a forum for a group of people you don’t belong to, or want to belong to, and then slagging that group of people off while you are there. It is typical of a female led service to just self-abnegatingly put up with that kind of shit in order to be welcoming to everyone.

THANK YOU. I guess this is what bothers me too. It's the posts where people are judgemental towards parents just trying to do their best and then it transpires they don't have any, through choice. It's peculiar.

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/05/2023 23:53

I said child free by choice

I don't care.

Your first line

I already know this is going to be divisive

Shows that it was your intent to be exclusionary and you considered asking the question as somehow daringly controversial instead of nasty and unoriginal

ilovesooty · 21/05/2023 23:53

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:48

I said child-free by choice.

Really? Do we only qualify to post if you wanted to have children then?

The emoji you posted after warm and welcoming community of women is rather telling.

SilentParrot · 21/05/2023 23:54

OP, your nerves seem touched...

EbonyRaven · 21/05/2023 23:54

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:48

I said child-free by choice.

Probably should have quit while were ahead @DarlingClementine85

Banning CFBC people is just a bit mean. Hmm

FiveShelties · 21/05/2023 23:54

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:48

I said child-free by choice.

How would you differentiate between those of us who cannot have children and those who do not want children?

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:56

HeidiUpTheMountain · 21/05/2023 23:51

It’s an odd distinction - I wanted kids but all my pregnancies failed. I’m still no more qualified to offer parenting advice than anyone who knew they never wanted children. Why do you feel otherwise? Or is this just another post designed to make women who don’t want children branded as some sort of weirdo outsiders?

Weird twisting of my words. I would assume that someone who wanted to be a parent would have an interest in parenting and would be interested in a parenting forum - there are ttc boards on here after all. And that someone who never wanted to be a parent would have no interest in parenting and wouldn't be interested in posting on parenting threads. I'm not referring to style and beauty threads here but giving actual parenting advice. In a similar way I'd find it strange to see a man who never wanted to be a dad giving his opinion on parenting.

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HeddaGarbled · 21/05/2023 23:56

this is predominantly a forum for getting or giving parental advice

Although it started out that way, it has moved far beyond that now.

I saw Justine give a speech at an Open University graduation ceremony and she talked about starting it up after a terrible holiday experience as a young mother of twins. She can’t have imagined that one day she’d be saying to Boris Johnson that he was a proven liar 😃

CC4712 · 21/05/2023 23:57

I joined MN when my 1st pregnancy had patau syndrome (trisomy 13). I lost 3 pregnancies, 13yrs TTC and multiple rounds of IVF. Should I stop reading and commenting on non- parenting things on MN because I can't have children OP?

I only comment on topics I have experience/knowledge in. I've found a wealth of knowledge about all manner of things on here- non of which are parenting related!

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:57

FiveShelties · 21/05/2023 23:54

How would you differentiate between those of us who cannot have children and those who do not want children?

Through someone saying "I am child-free by choice" lol

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chickawhoo · 21/05/2023 23:58

Oh OP I feel for you! I asked the same thing a while back and essentially got lynched by the "child free by choice" brigade and the mums who'd have one too many wines and wanted to rip me to pieces 🫠 I ended up hiding the thread in the end as couldn't be arsed with the attitude to a pretty reasonable question- and like you I asked it in a non confrontational and careful manner.
Just glad I name changed so nobody tags me on my own old post 😂
But for what it's worth OP yes it's weird, I never considered using MN pre-kids cos well why would I? *waits for the inevitable "just cos you never considered it doesn't mean others wouldn't...."

NuffSaidSam · 21/05/2023 23:58

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:47

I did see all those topics. And assumed that this was a community of people who had kids and ALSO were interested in things other than their kids. Like a forum for doctors who happen to be both doctors AND into style / watching TV etc and wanted to be part of a community of people who happen to all be doctors and can understand that world and all the shorthand that goes along with that. Or like a sewing group that discusses sewing AND books AND tv. Or like an NCT group that chats about parenting AND culture. For goodness sake it's not a difficult concept! But now you know, no harm done ❤️

But surely you could work out from the diversity of topics available why people without kids would be here? Because people without kids also like those things. As you say, it's not a difficult concept!

SilentParrot · 22/05/2023 00:00

chickawhoo · 21/05/2023 23:58

Oh OP I feel for you! I asked the same thing a while back and essentially got lynched by the "child free by choice" brigade and the mums who'd have one too many wines and wanted to rip me to pieces 🫠 I ended up hiding the thread in the end as couldn't be arsed with the attitude to a pretty reasonable question- and like you I asked it in a non confrontational and careful manner.
Just glad I name changed so nobody tags me on my own old post 😂
But for what it's worth OP yes it's weird, I never considered using MN pre-kids cos well why would I? *waits for the inevitable "just cos you never considered it doesn't mean others wouldn't...."

lynched

HeddaGarbled · 22/05/2023 00:01

yes it's weird, I never considered using MN pre-kids cos well why would I

A friend sent me a link to the lemon drizzle thread and I was hooked.

SocksAndTheCity · 22/05/2023 00:01

Wait until the OP finds out there are men on here too 🤯🤣

CountZacular · 22/05/2023 00:01

Isn’t a better question, how did you end up on Mumsnet, especially if you are child free? I can absolutely understand why you would stay with such a varied range of topics for a forum predominantly for women. It’s interesting how people got here in the first place (it was pregnancy that led me here but now I stay for the feminism topics).

FiveShelties · 22/05/2023 00:01

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:57

Through someone saying "I am child-free by choice" lol

So I should have a user name which says 'FiveShelties - I am unable to have children' just to ensure you know that I am not childless by choice. Not sure about the LOL though.

CKL987 · 22/05/2023 00:02

I love the drama.

DreamingCatTwitches · 22/05/2023 00:02

DarlingClementine85 · 21/05/2023 23:53

THANK YOU. I guess this is what bothers me too. It's the posts where people are judgemental towards parents just trying to do their best and then it transpires they don't have any, through choice. It's peculiar.

A lot of people love judging parents don’t they? No compassion or understanding required.

CabbagePatchDole · 22/05/2023 00:03

A lot of child free people have kids in their lives.

DeadSea95 · 22/05/2023 00:03

I don't read the parenting stuff, though I might have a child later and its given me things to consider.

I mostly read the relationship and work posts when bored.

Otherwise I look at reddit, though it's annoying when they assume I'm a man too.