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Be Kind - Schofield/Willoughby

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reachingfeverpitch · 21/05/2023 21:52

The internet seems full of awful comments about Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby.

People should perhaps remember what happened to Caroline Flack!

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welcometomylife23 · 22/05/2023 15:56

I despise ‘be kind’ and how it’s used nowadays. Usually by cult like followers of so called influencers desperate to gain their attention, to shoot down anyone who isn’t falling over themselves with adoration. It’s a way to silence any healthy differences of opinion but usually accompanied with far worse vitriol, directed at anyone who doesn’t agree, which they ironically can’t see.

If you do shitty things, you should be able to be accountable, regardless of who you are or what supposed ‘status’ you have in life.

IWasOlderThen · 22/05/2023 15:59

FuckTheLemonsandBail · 22/05/2023 10:26

I think the Be Kind thing that trended shortly afterwards really changed the public discourse on Caroline.

Suddenly anyone who had anything even remotely critical to say about somebody assaulting their partner with a weapon was shouted down with BE KIND even though it's okay to judge men who assault their female partners with weapons.

To this day it feels uncomfortable to pipe up quietly with '.... she ended her life because she didn't feel able to face the consequences of her actions/assault' because you just know it'll be met with a barrage of Be KiNd

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There does seem to be a double standard out there as regards men and women.

and let's not forget, we are rightfully disgusted at Philip Schofield's seeming enablement of abuse, but many many mothers turn a blind eye to their significant other abusing their own children. It sadly happens all the time. Mothers choosing their man over their children. Same thing .

itsgettingweird · 22/05/2023 16:00

Be kind means STFU.

I'm kind to people who respect others and do the right thing despite it having an affect on them.

pP stood in court and admitted to knowing his brother was abusing a young child.

CF was going to court because the CPS felt there was a solid case to convict her for assault of her partner.

We're either of them "being kind?"

Nope.

Having said that I don't go on Twitter, FB or MN threads to discuss them. But I'll be blowed if I'm also going to adhere to being silent over my opinion about it if I'm asked.

usedtobeasizeten · 22/05/2023 16:06

VeggieSalsa · 21/05/2023 22:23

Domestic violence incidents should
be taken to court. There was an argument and an injured party. It’s for the court to decide whether there is a case to answer.

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Exactly! Can you imagine if a woman came on here saying her partner had hit her with a lamp? There would be an outcry! ‘Police NOW!!’ ‘Press charges!!’ Hate the double standards on here…

Fandangoes · 22/05/2023 16:14

Aaaaandbreathe · 22/05/2023 15:40

PS said when TS told him, he just told him it couldn't happen again and that his brother made it sound like a one off. That conversation was in 2021 and in his court statement 2023.

Falling out means when people don't speak to each other. Usually because they don't agree with something the other has done.

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That's your version of 'falling out' - there are other, more effective and constructive ways of expressing your disagreement with somebody. As much as we would all like to believe these things are bland and white, the truth is that they rarely are. Until you are in that kind of situation you do not know what you would do or even what is the 'right' thing to do. We do not have all the facts. What TS did was awful and he has been jailed for it. Do I think all of his family members should also be vilified because of his behaviour? - No.

QueenBitch666 · 22/05/2023 16:25

Bluebells1970 · 22/05/2023 10:29

So we're supposed to "be kind" to people accused of domestic violence....

CF hit someone over the head with a lamp. She made sure that the truth was never known because she took her own life rather than face any level of responsibility in court.

I'm so sick of hearing her name trotted out as if she was a victim. She CHOSE to live her life on social media, but couldn't cope when the adoration turned.

💯 👌

YourFault · 22/05/2023 16:28

shut the fuck up… cringe.

changedforanswer · 22/05/2023 16:33

Scousebloke · 21/05/2023 21:55

One killed herself because she was going to go down for assaulting her boyfriend. This one is more similar to J.S.

This. CF thought she was going down for assualt on bf.

PS appears to have covered up paedo brother and dated an 18 year old man he met and became very good friends with from 14 and some say 10 whilst being a much older man with status and a celebrity around the young vulnerable childrens charity he was involved in.

PS managed to persuade everyone he was 'brave' and a hero for coming out gay whilst screwing around when married to a woman. That's a spin. HW appears to have turned a blind eye to the above until the recent paedo brother was sent down. Massive super injunction from PS will go public in July - distance now means saving career by HS perchance

HoliOrangeBlossom · 22/05/2023 20:23

Otherland · 21/05/2023 22:02

If it weren’t for these two, gushing over BoJo Johnson yet laying in to Corbyn, maybe we’d have a better country today. I’m happy to see both disappear off our screens on that alone.

Yup.

bellac11 · 22/05/2023 21:18

greencardigangirl · 22/05/2023 13:39

@bellac11 is #trynottobesohostiletopeople your own version of #bekind ? If so, I'll respond to it the same way I would to #bekind which is #fuckno.

I will decide to who I will offer kindness and it isn't to the likes of Phillip Schofield.

Er you were being hostile to me. I couldnt care less about Philip Scofield.

Beezknees · 22/05/2023 21:22

"Be kind" is patronising nonsense spouted by people when they can't cope with somebody disagreeing with them.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/05/2023 21:25

AngeloMysterioso · 21/05/2023 21:56

#bekind is a hashtag thrown around by virtue signalling twats.

Some people are awful, and it is ok to point that out sometimes.

Totally agree

Cas112 · 22/05/2023 22:04

AngeloMysterioso · 21/05/2023 21:56

#bekind is a hashtag thrown around by virtue signalling twats.

Some people are awful, and it is ok to point that out sometimes.

👏🏼

whynotwhatknot · 23/05/2023 00:35

wasnt timothy in the police?

whynotwhatknot · 23/05/2023 00:35

Theres a festival theyve set up for the past couple of years flackstock-celebrating caroline its bloody ridiculous

Bellagio40 · 23/05/2023 04:52

Summerfun2023 · 21/05/2023 22:15

What was the point of your thread op to dig the knife in deeper possibly. Rub more salt in the wounds. He had to leave too much negative publicity on his family. It's unfortunate you can't choose your family and his brother was an officer of the law.

His brother was absolutely NOT a police officer

Bellagio40 · 23/05/2023 04:56

Phillip Schofield is the last person I’d be kind about

rwalker · 23/05/2023 05:27

I quite agree but the phrase be kind can be misinterpreted as supportive

lay off would be better than be kind

his career is all but over at his age with his money he should just disappear from the public eye

theres a lot of rumours not particularly been validated

SchoolShenanigans · 23/05/2023 06:27

AbreathofFrenchair · 22/05/2023 09:02

His brother told him he was engaging in the sexual abuse of a child and Phil did nothing with that information

And YOU think that's ok?

So if your sibling was mutually masterbating to porn with a child, you would keep that to yourself? Wow. What makes you better than them at this point?

You might as well say you enable paedophilia and be done with it

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From what I read, it was a 17 year old teenager. Calling them a child isnt helpful in this instance; there's a vast difference between a 10 year old and a 17 year old.

StopStartStop · 23/05/2023 06:47

Summerfun2023 · 21/05/2023 22:20

One last thing Holly and Philip are not feuding it's his way out without the press talking about the real reason his pedophilic brother.

It's all an act to protect her career when the details of his past behaviour are fully exposed.

AbreathofFrenchair · 23/05/2023 06:47

SchoolShenanigans · 23/05/2023 06:27

From what I read, it was a 17 year old teenager. Calling them a child isnt helpful in this instance; there's a vast difference between a 10 year old and a 17 year old.

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The abuse of the child started when the child was 13 and continued for a 3 year period.

Please, STOP trying to find ways to make it acceptable. You are as bad as Timothy Schofield who insisted it was a mutual relationship.

It was abuse. He was a minor. Its paedophilia and Philip Schofield knew and did nothing.

QuintanaRoo · 23/05/2023 06:59

SchoolShenanigans · 23/05/2023 06:27

From what I read, it was a 17 year old teenager. Calling them a child isnt helpful in this instance; there's a vast difference between a 10 year old and a 17 year old.

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Well 17 is over the age of consent so if that’s true why has he gone to prison?

Sigmama · 23/05/2023 07:03

Caroline flack's story was a little but more complex than shame over her incident of violence. Would you be ok for her mother to read some of the comments on here, have a bit more compassion

RichardsGear · 23/05/2023 07:16

QuintanaRoo · 23/05/2023 06:59

Well 17 is over the age of consent so if that’s true why has he gone to prison?

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Well, quite! I think people need to read up a bit more on this case before jumping in to minimise what happened and making excuses for a pair of fucking horrible men.

Wombastic · 23/05/2023 07:25

Hmmm I live in a tiny village so if I were to date someone 38 years younger then people could say that I had known them as a child- so that is maybe a distraction. But- I would not ever date someone that much younger. When I see under 25’s they look like children to me and that’s just gross.

Any woman will tell you that they have at some point been judged about their “purity” called a slut etc. As a result women are much more careful about who they date in general and think about how it will reflect on themselves and their families. Philip has never had this, he’s been admired whatever he’s done. The gay community tends to be freer in general so it’s very possible he was too relaxed and didn’t think about how he would be seen.

I am interested in why both brothers have turned out a certain way and would be asking what happened in their pasts. Could be wrong but….

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