To think that Phillip Schofield is a fantastic example of a complete and utter narcissist?

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His behaviour over the last week has given me no doubt. To be honest I’ve never really liked him and found him incrediably rude, smug and generally obnoxious but the brass neck he has displayed since the story about him and Holly’s falling out has shocked even me. The statement he released was a not so thinly veiled thread towards Holly and ITV. His refusal to stand aside or even take a break and lie low for a bit shows he completley lacks any sense of shame. Now he’s starting to play the mental health card when there’s fuck all wrong with him other than an out of control ego and an unhealthy interest in barely legal young men..

Also his eyes. They are completley cold and dead.

Dan Wooton has tweeted tonight that there is no superinjunction.

So I guess that means the media just absolutely protected him. He was untouchable

So what has changed? 🤔

It could be that an NDA has expired? Or that someone (MM? Someone else?) has been persuaded to go on record with their version of events, thereby giving the Mail leverage of the "this is the story, we have a sworn statement, this is your chance to comment..." sort.

Momentum started to build because of the brother's court case. I think that scared the horses and helped get the story over the line.

It'll be some combination of those kind of factors anyway. The tabloids have always got slowburners on the go.

I haven't watched it since Ferne and not regularly since I was a student. But I've been really interested in the slow reveal. I'm wondering how much the production management are going to be held to account to the cover up.

I really don't understand why you would have to be a current viewer to find these scandals interesting, or to prefer dodgy men didn't get these positions of influence in the media.

I totally agree. I don't know when I last watched TM but it was probably when Fern Britton was still on it. It's hard to avoid though, when every last interview etc is covered in the media. Plus I do watch Dancing on Ice (in spite of PS and HW, definitely not because!). What I've seen online of all of their silly giggling, stupid innuendos and arriving in to work still pissed, hasn't ever attracted me to watch it. I work FT anyway and if I'm on leave, I'm not wasting my day watching that crap!

However, I have been following the denouement of PS with interest. He's around my age. I've always been vaguely aware of his professional activities even if I haven't watched. It's kind of in the public interest?

I refuse to believe that HW/other presenters/production staff/senior management did not know what he was up to. The tearful, distraught 'coming out' was just a total farce.

No matter how she tries to distance herself, HW is tainted by association. The close friendship - the family holidays together. She can't just walk away from that and expect people to believe that this is something she has only just found out!

I dislike a witchhunt, which this is kind of turning out to be - but it seems that in this case, the rumours were actually true, in which case there should be consequences for all involved!

I've not really followed this story but I am confused by the media obsession. Having done a little reading up on it after reading this thread, all I can see is he had a legal relationship with a much younger man. Morally not good as he could have been using his position of power to maneuver the relationship but I can't see evidence that he's a paedophile or that he covered up for his brother. Are there more stories that point to him being a paedophile that I haven't found?

@Spiderysummer what his brother told him was absolutely appalling and there was no excuse for not raising the authorities. There's more to it than has been reported in mainstream media.

The much younger man was someone he knew from childhood, who he was a mentor to. It was extremely inappropriate. Pretty much the definition of grooming. The young man also lost his job when he fell out with PS. Abuse of power on every level. And colluded with by ITV and everyone around PS.

I'm pretty sure there is more coming on that too.

Sadly the British seem to delight in building people up and tearing them down. Surely what he has allegedly been involved in is a private affair? We never know what somebody is going through. Be kind always.

I think it's to do with the time he met the much younger man. And how that young man got his job.

You can tell a lot about a man from how he treats others. In his case he has treated his wife and children appallingly no matter how much he try's to portray the happy families narrative. He has also allegedly treated those he worked with badly. So I guess it's karma.

Gosh. The grooming apologists are out in force.

@Daz57 stop it w the ‘be kind’ rubbish. Shall we ‘be kind’ to paedophiles and murderers now?
PS wasn’t ‘kind’ to other TM staff it seems as well as his family and didn’t take his brother’s noncing seriously. Wtaf?!

I don't like his behaviour and some of the things that have come out in the media (if true) but I hate people diagnosing people they've never met as narcissists or similar even more.

@Daz57 , he was a married man, with a family, who got a male teenager a job at where he was working. His image was that of someone squeaky-clean.
He then had an affair with the teenager, who he had known before he turned 18, and who was decades younger than him.

He recently 'came out' to much applaud from his colleagues and the public, but it looks highly suspicious that there is more to the story.

Personality disorders are very much mental health conditions!!

He had a sexual relationship with an 18yr old employee who he was in a position of power over (and who he fired when the relationship ended). Even without the huge age difference and the fact the employee was a teenager, many workplaces ban senior level employees/managers from dating their employees due to the power differential.

He'd been friends with and mentored this 18yr old since he was 12 at the very oldest. This was not a case of meeting someone once when they were 12, then bumping into him again years later, it was an ongoing mentoring relationship that lasted throughout the boy's teenage years. Hard to see it as anything other than grooming.

He also has a history of befriending teenage boys, which is clearly odd for a 60-something to be befriending 16yr olds, even if 16 is above the age of consent.

As for the brother, Schofield testified in court that his brother had disclosed to him the fact he'd watched porn and masturbated with a child, and that he (PS) had told him "I don't want to know about it" and "You've got to stop, just never do it again. Regardless how that happened it must never happen again". PS didn't report the disclosure.

Every day he was yhe headline news. It was hashed over on all the broadcast news. Rumours were flying around about him. That's an enormous amount if stress for a human being yo go through. Of course his mental health was trashed.
It's so easy for people to go on the keyboard and anonymously write nasty things about people. They never give a thought for how that actually is affecting the person in the receiving end. Imagine if people wrote in such volume and nastiness about your daughter even if it were all true. You'd be outraged. But your response over PS is that he's a narcissist. Why? Because he turned up for work and attempted to hold onto his job in the face of the storm.

Wait. What? Philip Schofield is a murderer?

@Daz57

“be kind” basically means don’t pull anyone up on anything no matter how abhorrent their behaviour

"Every day he was the headline news" - yes, something he caused by his own actions, which has now been borne out in his own words.

Why shouldn't he take personal responsibility for whatever it is he has done? He is almost certainly trying to minimise at this point. Seems very likely is that there is more to come.

What law has he broken? Taking personal responsibility is one thing. A national witch-hunt with people saying how awful it is whilst in reality they're licking their lips at dragging him down. Whatever he has done, expecting an individual to come through the pressure that has been exerted on him from all sides without it being mentally damaging is naive. Could you imagine if it was your son or daughter that was being hounded like this? Would you be quite so dismissive about it all. Blimey if one manager is even a bit rude to someone over a mistake someone's made, posters are up in arms and advising to put in a grievance.
No excuse for rudeness, apparently, but baying for blood like a pack of dogs, that's OK.
And even if it emerges that he has broken the law, no one knew that when all this started. It was just thinks and hunches and crap about superinjunctions. British justice safe in MN hands.

What a lot of words to say you're fine with adult men grooming kids into relationships as long as they wait until the kid reaches the legal age of consent (which remember is only 16) to have sex with him, and disagreeing with anything that's not an actual crime makes you part of a 'witch hunt.'

When all the Jimmy Savile stuff came out there were threads here saying "innocent until proven guilty" and "witchhunt."

This happens every single time a famous man is accused of any kind of sexual abuse, people start screeching witch hunt and coming up with any possible reason to defend him. In my experience it happens on a local level whenever men are accused. A respected community leader in my village was convicted of possessing child sexual abuse images and the degree to which half the village defended him and minimised his actions was crazy, and it was nearly all women doing it.

Holly is back today with a prepared statement. I can’t see anyway back for her to be honest , I think she’s linked to closely to PS.
Maybe I’m wrong though

Totally agree op

The vile relentless deluge of these threads is ironic. Posters preaching moral superiority when engaging on a relentless witch hunt they won’t give up on until lives are lost. What more do you want? His career is over, he’s lost his wife, colleagues and friends. Will an attempt on his life make you happy and satisfy your slathering and picking over of every morsel.

It’s horrendous and shows social media at its worst.

It’s not about threads on an anonymous website giving their opinions on PS.

The media sells stories, they make a living out of it. Yes PS reputation is in tatters as his career , but it’s his win doing.

PS has been in show businesses for 40 years. He knows more than us what the media are like.

I hardly think PS cares what people on Mumsnet say about him, he already knows how toxic he has become.

Social media can be horrible as you say , but people who work in the entertainment world know this. They know this more than me or you.