Manners are disappearing in society

[cobbledstone]

I'm heading towards my 6th decade, definitely not 'young' anymore.

I'm starting to notice that the young - those in their 20's, 30's - have much less regard for manners than my generation.

No thank you letters. Don't respond to invitations until last minute (if at all) and won't hesitate to cancel something via text just because it suits.

On their phone at the supermarket instead of acknowledging the cashier.

I'm in the middle of selling our house and it's amazed me just how many potential buyers in that age group have simply disappeared - with zero feedback, positive or negative. One buyer I gave up Sat and Sun for (so her partner could come to look) wasting time with my family and her feedback to the EA was, I was simply being nosey.

FFS!

AIBU? Are 20/30 somethings less concerned about other peoples feelings/commitments/time?

‘Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders‘ -

Baz Luhrmann, Sunscreen

Think this age old quote although aimed at late teens/ early twenties goes some way to summing up generational views.

"I would there were no age between sixteen and three-and-twenty or that youth would sleep out the rest; for there is nothing in the between but getting wenches with child, wringing the anciently, stealing, fighting."
Shakespeare, the winters tale,1611.

I work on a supermarket checkout and find people in their 20s and 30s friendly and polite in the vast majority of cases. Women between roughly 55 and 75 are the most difficult to deal with. I’m 46.

I just have to address this.

The free higher education you refer to was only given to 10% of people because generally only 10% of people went on to university.

Now, 50% of people go. More people get the opportunity to go to university-much more than the boomers- but clearly giving 50% of free university is much more expensive than 10%.

So, if you had the choice would you like to go back to what the boomers had-which is, you can have free university education but only 10% can actually benefit from that or 50% of you can go but it can't be free.

Please don't come back with the shite 'arguement' of asking why can't it be free for 50%. but I know many of you will because that is the parrot mind.

Most boomers did not have access to university education at all.

@WhatNoRaisins I have taken an additional job on a supermarket checkout and despite the fact I do get paid I do like a customer to at least acknowledge me . We fail our regular checks if we don’t greet a customer. I don’t need a full conversation but if I am completely ignored I feel like a flipping servant .

I have to admit that has been my experience with older women. I had a woman have a go at me because I politely asked her (several times) if I could please move past her (she chose to walk in the middle of a narrow pavement while on the phone) while heading to pick up my oldest. She moved , I thanked her and seconds later she started to badmouth me to whomever she was talking to. I turned right around and asked her if there was a problem and she told me not to start with her because she had a bad day as if that is a great excuse. I shook my head at her and kept walking. If she had been paying attention she would have seen that in my pram I had two large bags of compost that were sticking out and I would have hit her legs if I had tried to move past her without asking and her day would have been much worse.

Even with couples, I’ve experienced the man usually apologising when they’ve blocked aisles or pavements and the woman glaring at me as if I should just stand there and wait for them to finish their conversations even though they could have easily stood to the side and I can’t go anywhere else until they move.

Yeah, us millenials/gen z were raised by boomers: they were shit at it, obvs.🙄

Personally I think teenagers (younger gen z?) and boomers are the worst mannered. I find most people in their 20s and 30s are generally fine. I can understand you being angry about someone just nosing at your house as I know how much work and stress goes into viewings but people aren't obligated to give you feedback if they feel the house isn't suitable for them. Also, I think cancelling is fine as long as it's done in a timely fashion.

We fail our regular checks if we don’t greet a customer.

This is part of the problem, though. Your manager has told you to greet me (the customer). I don't really want you to, and I definitely don't want you to ask how my day has been (because it will have been horrible, and if you ask me I will tell you that). You are either going to irritate me or you are going to fail your checks. Your manager is just as much - if not more - to blame for this as/than I am.

I think poor manners span all generations but recently I was at hospital with my Dad and when he was in his appointment I insisted on moving to allow and family with their Gran in a wheelchair to sit where I was as much easier space for the chair. They thanked me three or four times and then thanked my Dad for raising me right.

Made me sad that it's obviously so rare these days that it warranted such a response.

I'm in my 40s.

I'm looking to buy, have been for some time. Firstly, never received feedback emails, EAs have always called. Which is bloody inconvenient with a 2 yo and a 3 mo. I'm usually bun wiping/getting someone to sleep/interacting with my kid!!! I actually find calling to be quite rude. The presumption of having my time there and then.

Secondly, the amount of houses which are over half a million we've seen where they haven't bothered to clean at all, are in poor condition because they haven't maintained them is ridiculous. I don't feel I owe those people anything. They haven't cared enough about potential buyers to even make the place look clean.

Lastly, showing someone your house yourself (purple bricks?) is really weird and uncomfortable for potential buyers. We try and avoid these places, it's so off-putting.