Do people not make the effort with appearance anymore

[Scarletthoo2]

The last couple of months, I've noticed in restaurants, bars and social places that majority of women/young adults have replaced heels for trainers and dresses for jeans and dress pretty much causal when out socialising in bars or eating out. Is this the new norm? Why don't people make an effort anymore? Especially the younger generation. AIBU or is this a minority?

I agree. I’ve done the whole heels and wiggle dresses look a few years back but I think it’s of a certain time and looks very dated nowadays.

I went to my local, regular pub yesterday on my way back from the tip. No make up, hair scraped back, and, biggest horror of all, wearing my tip shoes! I know!

Of course, once I was halfway down my first glass of wine, I’d run out of fucks to give and enjoyed the sunshine and company.

today I’ve gone to work in a smart dress and proper shoes (not heels but not trainers either), full face of makeup and hair blow dried.

it is possible to wear whatever you like, appropriate to the setting, and feel nice and comfortable and that is nobody else’s bloody business.

@myveryownelectrickitten autocarrot?

yes, it’s a joke term for autocorrect, like calling the Guardian the Grauniad

I didn't see any wedges or boots at the coronation...

I don't agree it's vvvvvv old fashioned, I think it's now much more formal

Why do they need to move on?

Allowing women to dress how they want means exactly that. If a woman wants to wear heels and sparkly jewellry, go for it. If she wants to wear joggers and trainers, please do.

Swapping one judgement of women for another doesn't make you any better than the OP, and these women are supposed to be your friends?

I will consider myself told off. 😊

Me and my sister was talking about this last night as it goes. I hate todays fashion, we went out for a meal and drinks over the weekend and I wore a grass with wedges. My sister was in a skirt co-ord and heels we were probably over dressed but I don't feel like I'm going out if I wear flats. I live in trainers and active wear all week, if I was to wear jeans and trainers to go on a night out I'd feel a bit samey. Dresses with trainers doesn't look flattering at all. I don't care if your a size 8 or an 18 it just looks like a sack 🫣 wear it with heel though and your whole posture changes instantly. My 18 and 21 year old wear heels on nights out so I don't think they are dying out.

I did like how her friends' eyes widened as she walked in - probably thinking 'mate, this weather you're going to catch your death dressed like that.'

Actually the only exception for me to wear ‘proper’ shoes would be something more formal like a wedding, christening or dinner event in a hotel etc. Even then i would go for a lower heel - my feet can’t deal with germs anymore after so many years in trainers.

Heels are overdressed and dated. People in London have been dressing like this for years. I like to wear nice dresses but with flats

YABU.
It's none of your business what other people wear on their feet.
It's none of your business if a female chooses a pair of jeans over a frock.

Heels not germs - no idea why that got auto corrected

Looks like you're in the minority OP!
I don't put any effort into my appearance because I don't care about it. I don't even think I own a pair of shoes that aren't trainers.

I think plenty of people still dress up- and it doesn't have to be mini dresses and heels to be dressed up- nice smart trousers and flat shoes with a blouse or shirt look dressy enough for most occasions. I still see plenty of people where I live in skirts and dresses and heels though. I went to a local eurovision event on Sat afternoon which was at an outdoor venue with a few bars and there were a variety of styles on show- lots in summer midi dresses, sandals, blazers, designer handbags, jeans and nice blouses, some in trainers with dresses, floaty trousers, some in wedges, etc. Lots in jeans too. Men the same- most in jeans and trainers with shirts or t-shirts, some in smart trousers with slip on shoes and no socks and shirts, some in shorts,

I haven’t worked in London since 2009 but even back then we wore trainers and kept a pair of heels in the drawer to change into if we had a meeting.

This!

I am exactly the same. Being all dressed up in a dress and heels would be my idea of a nightmare and very uncomfortable.

There's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy going on on this thread though. The 'wear what you like, don't dress up for men, it's none of your business' brigade, then slagging off people wearing heels and dresses as overdressed and dated

You stated people but really wanted to shame women.

OP this is AIBU any views expressed on here may not be those of the person posting them.
Believe none of it.

Can't women just wear what they want without being criticised? It's fine to wear casual clothes, it's also fine to get dressed up and wear heels if someone wants to. I'd say even when I used to be out every weekend (a fair few years ago now) most women wore white converse and denim shorts with a tee- comfy and casual, I agree though generally the trend now is more geared towards comfort. People look after themselves in different ways, amongst my friends I'd say there was more of a focus on fitness in terms of caring about one's body rather than anything else.

Yes I agree, as is always the way with any thread to do with women. There's always let them do what they want (but x is way better and women are silly for doing y).

I think young people are very dressed up, way more than in my day (10yrs ago) But it's a different sort. Hair and make up are much more polished, outfits much more put together. Maybe not a short dress and heels but effort has gone in.

A clubbing dress and heels was easy! Shove it on with some hoops and I was ready to go. I'd wear trainers for a more dirty club but very little thought went in. I went out recently and all the girls had carefully curated outfits. Some with trainers, some with heels.

It's just fashion. It will change. I think it'd naive to that heels are gone for good.

There's an awful lot of judgement on this thread about women from all angles. Women can and should dress how they like, and it really doesn't matter if its old fashioned, no one has to keep up with fashion and no one has to present a certain image.

And also no one gives a fuck what happens in London.

Haven’t worn heels or makeup since I retired four years ago. I do wear casual summer dresses and maxis while on holiday.

Ah, but this is where things have definitely changed. You may have worn mostly trainers to work but were expected (required?) to wear heels to important meetings. Or at least you felt obliged to to present yourself and your employer properly. This is far less so the case now.

A few years ago, I OP'ed a thread on here alerting people to a petition to ban any compulsory requirement of women to wear heels as part of a work uniform or dress code. This came in the light of a spate of cases where women's feet were being damaged, and women being discriminated against for being unable to wear heels. Any such dress code was clearly sexist and unreasonable. I think any requirement to wear heels can no longer be enforced, so whilst they may come back into fashion, the view, by society in general, that smartly dressed women will be wearing heels is gone, so that whole notion will always now be diluted. Smart looks different now.