Do people not make the effort with appearance anymore

[Scarletthoo2]

The last couple of months, I've noticed in restaurants, bars and social places that majority of women/young adults have replaced heels for trainers and dresses for jeans and dress pretty much causal when out socialising in bars or eating out. Is this the new norm? Why don't people make an effort anymore? Especially the younger generation. AIBU or is this a minority?

Why would you want people to wear things they're uncomfortable in though? Just to impress other people?

@shadowchancesassy - I disagree that trainers with a dress is unflattering or looks like a sack. I have seen plenty of outfits like this that looked pretty and very flattering. I seriously considered wearing pink Converse with a dress to my son’s wedding, and I have a friend who wore Converse to her own wedding, and looked absolutely amazing!

This is the UK. Many people don't do style, or pride in appearance.

I noticed the difference in that bastion of style, Belgium, last week. Never mind France or Italy.

Sorry but isn't what you mean is that British people don't have a style you admire

The British people pride themselves on their ability to dress in a way that suits them and makes themselves feel good with not need for your approval

Without not with not

sigh

It's 2023 mate, no one wears heels now 😂

You must look awfully dated now OP if you're still cutting about in them. Maybe it's you who needs to make the effort with your appearance actually?

Completely agree. I think dresses and trainers can look really cute.

Today I’m wearing a midi dress with pink and lilac flowers matched with lilac vans - and I definitely don’t look like a sack of spuds.

Like all outfits, it’s how you wear it that matters

In fairness to @shadowchancesassy, I do look like a sack in whatever I wear.

Re heels: I'd say they're beginning to make more of an effort to walk normally/properly and not on tiptoes anymore. You should try that. It's liberating.

jeans and flat shoes have been my staple since Nirvana!

I’m from Belgium although not living there but when we are there visiting family, jeans and trainers or dresses and trainers are the norm. I’ll be there tomorrow and will be going out to dinner in Brussels wearing my skinny jeans and converse trainers.

Such a tragedy, no one bothers to bind the feet of young women.

What is the world coming to, allowing women to dress for comfort? Whatever next?

Cannot believe it took this long for someone to start blabbering this nonsense.

Oh yes, British people are fat ugly piles of lard who simply ooze around the high streets with their ugly clothes looking like sacks of shit, while every other country is fashionable and stylish in their ‘good fabrics’ and ‘tailored clothing.

I’ve spent time in France and Italy. Some people are stylish, others are casual. Most people are just wearing normal clothes for their daily lives. Just like us in the UK.

And for what it’s worth I think it’s also a myth that high heels improve your posture. I think they force people to walk in a silly looking and unnatural way. It’s much more attractive in my opinion to see someone striding along normally in a pair of shoes that aren’t specifically designed to make it hard to walk.

Jeans and a top were what i used to go out in in my uni years. Was only in the late naughties that everyone started going out in little dresses and heels.the hsiness formal years!

I notice this too. One of my best mates is Lithuanian and she and her friends dress much better than most English women. Stylish but classy. I suppose I'd say 'classic'. You'd never see her wearing her dressing gown to the shop. 😂

I'm all up for comfort myself. Nice dress and kicks can look pretty good whilst being comfy.

I also feel like European women don't tend to dress up in as sexualised a fashion. A lot of young women over here seem to have it all hanging out when they go clubbing. I'm not even talking about booty outfits you'd see in a chavvy music video, more the really tiny dresses that leave very little to the imagination.

My European mates seem to manage to look glamorous without having it all hanging out.

Lol the slagging off the British has started. British have always been slightly ahead fashion wise in terms of edginess and fun. Leave the boring “classy” dressing to the French and Italians. As for the poster agreeing eastern European dressed more classy i think she kind of missed the point. They dress for the male gaze more. Not sure classy is the word i would use though.

I think it's a real shame. I see the state of some people especially women and i think how sad it is that there was a time that men wore hats and ladies in dresses and now I see people in tracksuit bottoms when they weren't at the gym.

I don't think you need to be preened every where you go but going to a restaurant in tracksuit and trainers or work without wearing something a bit more presentable seems a real reflection of society now.

How is slopping about in T-shirts and tracksuit bottoms, as many seem to permanently do, either edgy or fun?

How do British women NOT dress for the male gaze? If I venture out on a Saturday evening I see very little left to the imagination. It's all hanging out!! Fine, I'm not judging. They can wear what they want. But European women definitely dress more modestly. I say this as someone who's in law's live in Europe and I spend months in mainland Europe each year.

The british dress for fun and fashion more. Yes you will get a small subset of a specific age group out on a sat dressed in a certain way but overall as a nation we dress more for ourselves and for our female friends.
i am talking about eastern european women dressing for the male gaze.

Clearly you are judging @SallyWD, why not just own it?

Perhaps we should all go back to this -

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