Do people not make the effort with appearance anymore

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The last couple of months, I've noticed in restaurants, bars and social places that majority of women/young adults have replaced heels for trainers and dresses for jeans and dress pretty much causal when out socialising in bars or eating out. Is this the new norm? Why don't people make an effort anymore? Especially the younger generation. AIBU or is this a minority?

That post was a a joke! (V. Crawley is the name of Maggie Smith’s snobbish character in Downton Abbey)

I’ve just seen an over 35’s soul night in a local pub advertised as no trainers. Do they not understand many of us in that age group won’t be able to walk for several days if we dance in shoes all night?

@GeraltsBathtub - thank you for explaining

i have never watched Downton Abbey and took the post on face value.

I sometimes like to wear heels.

However:

They have been proven to be detrimental to the wearer's health and are a potential safety hazard in various situations.
They can also contribute to women being (and potentially feeling) vulnerable in certain situations.

In other words: Heels (and no, I'm not talking about a one inch "heel"/sole combo) are a pretty bad deal for woman kind.

I welcome the fact that they are not simply part of everyday attire (like in the 50s) anymore.
and that they are not expected (sometimes even mandatory!) the work place nowadays!

It is great that many women- especially young women - do not feel the need to harm their health and potentially endanger themselves by wearing heels!

So yes, YABVU!

YABU why should women have to wear damaging footwear to look presentable ?

Don't tell us you have plastic tits and window plungers?

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T'was sarcasm, love.

Well you are a fucking lovely person OP

I don't put on some makeup and a dress when eating out because I don't believe my appearance equals my value.

Are you from the 1950's?
Maybe be less judgemental of others and focus on yourself.
If you think looking pretty for others is important then crack on with that, but don't expect everyone to have the same stance as yourself.

Laughing that trainers are scruffy no dahhling mine are Brooks and retail at £155 they are literally amazing trainers , comfort with archsupport and cushioning.

I haven't worn heels for at least 25 years! Glad that fashion has finally caught up with me. Hopefully elastic waistbands will be in next 🤣

Think they are, dds jeans are elasticated and flared. She's obsessed with fashion

If it's a special occasion or the venue dictates it, of course, I'd dress up. Sometimes it's just nice to relax and feel comfortable though - and in those circumstances it'd always be my better trainers and a favourite top I'd put on. Haven't got a problem with anyone else if they want to dress up and DH still tells me I look nice or says something positive about what I'm wearing even after 27 years of marriage.

Heels are tools of the patriarchy, hth.

When I was a teen/young adult everyone went out in heels and hated them, but everyone did and I felt it was almost compulsory. I am glad it’s more acceptable to wear trainers when going out!

Childhood and early teens we were wearing comfy-ish clothes, and then all of a sudden if you want to go out with your friends you have to wear heals and tight dresses. Always felt awkward for me tbh.

Dress and trainers in an effort for me and actually makes me feel good in myself whilst still being comfortable so kindly fuck off with your opinion and stop judging others so harshly thanks

You can actually dance in trainers

We had a work leaving do and were dressed up - only jeans and a nice top type clothing. We ended up in the local nightclub and the younger women were in joggers and old/tatty T-shirts. The type I would wear to do the garden in but still be embarrassed if anyone knocked on the door. It seemed like the less effort the better so I get what op is talking about. This wasn’t about wearing flats (I had flats on) but I can’t help being surprised anyone feels good in old joggers unless they’re home on the sofa.

In what decades were people going out in heels all the time? It doesn't seem to have been a thing since the mid 1990s, to me.

Heels had a revival in the late 2000s perhaps, I remember trying to wear them for five minutes at weddings. Thank fuck they've gone away again.

Fashion changes. I wouldn't dream of wearing i.e. pencil skirt and stilettos for drinks now. I would feel like an idiot. These items of clothing are left now for more of an occasion. I like that fashion is bit more relaxed now, I always felt under-dressed, even when going out to not posh places.

I think heels look ridiculous, why would I wear them?! Apart from taking me to well over 6ft, I don't want footwear that causes me to totter about and possibly fall and break something, thanks very much.
I'm sure this thread was done a few months ago, don't know if it's the same OP fishing for reactions or just another bored, goady poster though.

Apparently, the casual style has gone from jeans and a going-out top for us oldies to tank top and fun pants. WTF is considered a fun pant? Is this a nod to the resurgence in 90's fashion when we all looked like all saints in our cargo pants and vest tops?

YABU
Dressing casually does not equal not making an effort!!

All the talk about gardening clothes reminds me that when I was a trainee lawyer in 1999, the managing partner (who was in his 80s and from NYC) said that when he was a first year associate his then boss asked him if he needed to borrow some money to buy a hat. He said he remembered thinking that this was a very old fart attitude but now he sympathised as we all looked like we were off to work in our yards. I hate to think what he'd make of young lawyers' attire nowadays. We were all in suits! I think he objected to the lack of cufflinks and ties being tied in a scruffy way. Plus some ladies in trousers!