to not want people to judge those who recieve benefits????

[TidyTink]

Im a single mother of one,

i was working up until my DD (3) was born, rather than take a part time job that i knew i would always be stuck in i decided to get to college and study asubject that will lead me to a very hard working and well paid job so that i can fully support my DD in the future.

I hate recieving benefits and cannot wait untill i have finished my degree

Once i start at work i will be paying enough taxes in the future to more than cover the benefits ive recieved over the few yrs.

So why does everyone assume your a complete waste of space?? not all of us take advantage of the system!!!!

You seem to be the only one who finds it interesting. Your arguments are tedious

I don't find it interesting, i just cannot believe someone can be so ignorant. Especially as it's such a hot topic in this country right now!

stop calling people names and you might look a bit more credible

Igonrance is the only word to describe it!

I am sorry that you are infuriated Tidy but I do think it is responsible to make sure that you can provide for your children.

First i asked you if you were stupid, then i said what you said was stupid. But i haven't actually said you were stupid.

Provide in what sense Quattro?

Quattro, she said twice that she was working full time until her child was born so she obviously had the means to support it when she got pregnant.

"I would hate to think anyone who wanted more children didn't because of not being able to manage money wise."

Er, well, we didn't have any more and that was a major reason ...

Thank goodness there are not many people who feel that way - otherwise the tax burden would be so high we'd all give up work. Or migrate.

"Are YOU stupid- Do you believe things are really so tight- how could we afford a bogus war that no one wanted?
FGS they would only recieve about 50 pounds a week, its not much. That would top up their savings nicely"

Firsty, you shouldn't pick Sparkle up on saying "stupid" when you are no better yourself because you asked the exact same question

Plus if you did the maths then surely you would see that when you were told it would cost millions, that was not an exaggeration.
As someone who works for the NHS, i would be really pissed to see the government paying out for teenagers to squander tax payers hard earned cash when i can see with my own eyes what desperatly needs more funding on the NHS.

Provide materially. Home, hearth, food, clothes, emotional sustenance all that good stuff

That's the points i was trying to make and all i have left to say on the matter.

You havent read my posts properly. I also said that if I wanted more children I wouldn't as I can't afford to. Perhaps I should have said any children rather than more. The fact is at the moment it is possible to have as many children as you like as the state benefit is there. That doesnt mean everyone is going and having 10 children each. My point is if someone wants children but is either now and/or in the future not ever in a position to afford to do so without claiming benefit of some sort then that shouldnt be a reason for them to stay childless.

Op was working when she was pregnant. Her partner left her. When she got pregnant she was fully able to support her child. Later on she wasnt able to.

Why are people not listening? Does this not prove the very attitude the op is talking about? Everyone makes assumptions. They dont bother to find out the full story and when they do they ignore it.

mrsr - that last point has to be a wind up surely.

and no one has called you names. and what is wrong with saying someone else finds a posting amusing? first time on mnet I have seen that that is an offence?

Scruffy I am listening

The fact remains that the OP chose to get educated after having a baby rather than before. This leaves the taxpayer footing the bill.

That's okay but how is it fair when there are thousands of people honourably borrowing money to get their educations?

But Quattro- those things don't necessarily cost a lot of money do they?

Tell that to the recent graduates leaving universities many thousands of pounds in debt.

dal21 i was reading through the posts too and thought mrsruffallo's post were a wind up too. Imagine the uproar if the government gave each teenager money to have time off! Especially when there are so many pensioners who recieve low pensions.

Are you kidding me? Do you think every woman on this website went to college or uni? Or do you think it might just be possible some of them left school and got a job, not a career, a job to pay the bills or maybe married and became a stay at home mum? So if they end up a single parent who has to claim benefit for a while its their fault for not going into further education after leaving school?

Isn't the average Uni student leaving Uni with up to £20,000 in debt?

Many people are in debt. Those people can still raise children well.
Graduates are more likely to wait until they are in their thirties to reproduse so that is hardly a problem.
Peoples lives change, they evolve and have different needs at different times.
It doesn't mean they are better or worse person or parent than someone who did things in the way you deem to be correct

I don't think there is ever a right time in your life to have children. There are always going to be things that stand in your way but you just have to adapt and work around them.

Okay, what I think is that parents have a responsibility to provide for their children

The OP is not doing that, on the basis that she needs an education first. Well okay but why should the taxpayer fund this? Why should the OP not work, support her child and do her degree through the OU? Plenty of people do things the hard way rather than relying on the benefit safety net. It's possible.

would think most people are in debt - mortgage is a form of debt - dont think anyone has said that impacts ability to raise children.