to not want people to judge those who recieve benefits????

[TidyTink]

Im a single mother of one,

i was working up until my DD (3) was born, rather than take a part time job that i knew i would always be stuck in i decided to get to college and study asubject that will lead me to a very hard working and well paid job so that i can fully support my DD in the future.

I hate recieving benefits and cannot wait untill i have finished my degree

Once i start at work i will be paying enough taxes in the future to more than cover the benefits ive recieved over the few yrs.

So why does everyone assume your a complete waste of space?? not all of us take advantage of the system!!!!

because it makes them feel superior.
we are on benefits at the moment. dh will be back at work (soon hopefully)

stand well back light touch paper and do not return ever

you know, the taxpayer has just bailed a private company and its shareholders out of the company's leader's incompetance.

to the tune of over £100 billion.

corporate welfare.

so the next time someone starts bitching about people on welfare, i'm going to ask how much is spent on those poorest of the poor and how much on corporate welfare?

bet the former is a drop in the ocean compared to the latter.

whoever has time to waste spraffing about people on benefits really needs to get out more.

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Just say 'Northern Rock'.

Well said expat.

Probably because there are few people like you? Most do use the system to full capacity and have little incentive to work. I would say you are an exception as opposed to the norm. .IYSWIM.
Good luck BTW with your degree

or 'London Olympics'

Don't think everyone assumes that.If people can't differentiate then they prob read The Daily Mail
Understandable why people get annoyed in prob quite alot of cases though.You just do what you're doing and ignore them.
My dp feels stupid sometimes as he has a masters degree,works bloody hard,is away loads and we still can't afford to do things that some people we know who are on benefits do.
Don't justify yourself to people...do what is best for you.

Expat's damn right. Those billionaire 'non doms' have been getting way with paying less tax than the poor bloody women who clean their offices for donkey's years, as well.

Let alone those city wide boys who have been paying themselves million-pound bonuses out of our pension funds when their performance is no better than a small child (this has been tested - small child was better at tipping stocks than yer actual stockbrokers). I'd rather support families that are struggling than those bastards who have been getting rich quick off the back of sub-prime loans.

YANBU.

The idea is that you give according to your means and receive according to your needs. The roles can be reversed during someone's lifetime.

The only thing that bugs me is the fine line between qualifying and not which really affects peoples lifes.

Why even justify it, Tidy? You're entitled to them, so you can claim them.

Any one who sits on their high horse on the subject may well find themselves staring up at the horses bollocks themselves one day.

yes, corporations and private shareholders and fat cats know how to use the system to full capacity as well, tori. with little incentive but to get as much profit as possible no matter whom the source - including you.

Im on benefits, I am the carer for my husband, without a MAJOR breakthrough in medical science he is not coming off benefits. (DS2 is also SEN)
I would choose for DH to be healthy and in work than on benefits.
But some people take the piss.

Having seen expat and edam's post perhaps it's not the only thing that bugs me! I hadn't thought of that in this context tbh [dim]

But as mothers we all recieve child benefit

mercy that is a lovely idealistic post .
In my change of fortune i.e. I had split with DH, was a student nurse on £360 per month and working extra shifts as a careworker and doing assignments, trying to make ends meet. My rent was £245 per month not including any bills, food or clothes and I was not entitled to a student loan so had to use overdraft and keep extending it.
Have a guess what I got off the government? Help with rent £0, council flat even though I was homeless and living with an aquaintance - 0. Benefits to top up income- £0. I had paid tax and NI continuously for 8yrs and got sweet FA. . Why? because I didn't have children.
I worked my butt off with no days off for 3mths and worked double shifts most days to get through my training, until I almost had a breakdown and had to go to my parents cap in hand to ask them to help. Not their responsibility.

Thanks tori,

So glad theres so many useful opinions!

Sometimes you just need to have a little rant, just hate being tarred with the same brush!

But it's the government's responsibility, tori? Is it the taxpayer's responsibility to support fat cats and shareholders in private companies, too?

I can't understand people getting so worked up about people receiving benefits either. I was unemployed for a short time (when I was just out of Uni with a Politics degree and am a vegetarian who volunteered for local animal rights group - so what do local job centre offer me - McDonalds Managerial training - [hmmm]) - but I was confident and young free and single - so I worked long hours in shitty jobs till the right job came along - I had no responsibilities - that is what you do if you are capable.

Many many people are not very capable for all sorts of reasons - they are entitled to support. Why should anyone begrudge that? I certainly don't envy the life of someone living on benefits - it is generally boring and depressing.

My mum has a tiny income as a widow she has a small pension from my dad and widows benefit (a universal payment for widows) she receives Housing and ctax benefit and that involves hours of form filling and stress and the very people most in need of these payments are the least likely to be able to cope with processes involved in claiming. If she was able she would work but she isn't (believe me I know!).

To cap it all my extremely respectable Mother is having to leave the area near me and her grandchildren because we cannot find her a decent flat or bedsit (i.e. not a hellhole!) here - most landlords say no dss (sorry ... Benefit scum) So she is moving 300 miles away to a town where living is cheaper and rentable properties more accessible (away from the SE of England).

Do people really believe that everyone (and therefore anyone they meet) on benefits is abusing the system? Why do they think there is a system? Isn't the logical conclusion of this to have NO welfare system? What kind of horrific society would this be?

If anyone judges you, Tori, then their judgement is by definition not worth a second of your time and therefore you mustn't worry about it!

bum - my post was rubbish

Tidy - you are doing a good thing - investing in your future - you need and deserve support not derision.

I would love to see a more open and helpful benefits system - instead of the frankly over administrated officious and suspicious mess we have now.

Sorry, that was to OP (...and anyone else on benefits).

TidyTink I am a single mum of 1 too - I have just done my degree and am waiting for my post-grad course (PGCE) to start; then I will qualify as a teacher and work until retirement in teaching (I think!)

I am on benefits and I hate the way people assume I am stupid (even the lone parent workers at the job centre!) I do like using long words and confusing them though - that is fun!

YANBU and I know how you feel - it sucks, but at least we know it isn't forever (and it is their issue - not ours!)

Can i just say that its so uplifting to hear so many nice oppinions on this subject, i hear all too often the bad comments about benefits.