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To think not putting kitchen photos on selling particulars would put viewers off?

346 replies

Blankspacehere · 13/05/2023 11:26

Unfortunately, I'm not willing to put photos of my kitchen online.

But we're looking to move house, so just pondering through the process.

I'm concerned that not putting the kitchen photos in the particulars may put off buyers.

It's a nice house, couple of estate agents have viewed abd said that it should sell quickly as it's a desirable type and location.

Would I be reducing potential buyers?

Yabu - yes of course you will be limiting your audience.

Yabu - people will come based on the photos of rest of house and the written blurb on the kitchen.

OP posts:
ClaraBourne · 13/05/2023 16:13

Ah, being flippant. Just saw your reasoning. Sorry for all you have been through, sounds awful.

Anoooshka · 13/05/2023 16:14

If the rest of the house was good, I wouldn't mind if the kitchen wasn't up to scratch. Kitchen design is very personal, and I'd much rather design my own kitchen rather than live with someone else's choice of cabinets, appliances, etc.

Anoooshka · 13/05/2023 16:17

Anoooshka · 13/05/2023 16:14

If the rest of the house was good, I wouldn't mind if the kitchen wasn't up to scratch. Kitchen design is very personal, and I'd much rather design my own kitchen rather than live with someone else's choice of cabinets, appliances, etc.

Just saw the reason why you won't post pictures of your kitchen. I'd probably think that there was something wrong with the kitchen if there were no photos, but if you have a good estate agent then it shouldn't be a problem.

Batalax · 13/05/2023 16:18

Yes recoup some of that 12k by selling for top price.

TammyJones · 13/05/2023 16:25

Id still view - if the house was in the right area , under a certain age, had the right number of bedrooms etc.
not seeing a photo of the kitchen would make no difference.
I've bought house when all you got was a photo from the outside
Photos can be deceiving anyway.
The last house ticked all our boxes.
We put in a new kitchen 4 years ago and it is amazing
My husband fitted it.
Lucky that he can.
I'm really sorry about happened to you.
Wish you all the best in your new home!

WonderingWanda · 13/05/2023 16:28

Apologies @Blankspacehere for my very silly suggestions earlier. It sounds like you had a dreadful time, what bastards!! Hoping you can get a quick sale and move on from the whole unhappy mess soon! 💐

Laiste · 13/05/2023 16:33

Sorry to hear of your stress OP. I feel for you. I'm going through a similar lack of kitchen.

Is this a high end company? Can you give the initials?

DailyMaui · 13/05/2023 16:37

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/05/2023 12:28

But none of the celebrity chefs are actually cooking in their own kitchens. They are sets which are made to look like domestic kitchens. It would be very difficult to film successfully in a real domestic kitchen, lighting and the space to redo things would not be correct ( plus you need wide gangways for the camera and sound people, and the home economists who actually do most of the cooking.)

there was quite a fuss a few years ago when a journalist found out that Nigellas ‘kitchen’ was actually a stage set in Acton.

I film cookery series with celeb chefs in domestic kitchens - I have specific requirements: island hob (prefer gas), lots of space in front and side of said hob for tracks, no shiny white, no black/dark cupboards, no reflective backgrounds, must have a decent utility room for my home economist, use of living room, dining area and toilet, decent garden or at least nice immediate view from the side of the hob. I love a colourful kitchen. I filmed in a stunning Inchyra blue one last year. I prefer the owners to not be there when we film as they are rarely quiet when they stay.

I've only done one in a specific kitchen set in the last 7 years. I prefer kitchens in real homes as they just have a better feel. My only bugbear is having to clean them myself before the shoot - especially since the booking fee includes cleaning. I love finding new kitchen locations. There are some absolutely stunning homes out there. Expensive to hire though.

ShowUs · 13/05/2023 16:43

Because you spent so much money on the kitchen then I would absolutely put the photos on and see it as using your bad experience as a positive.

Kitchens are one of the most important parts of the house and you’ll get many more potential buyers who are willing to pay more.

Jellybebe · 13/05/2023 16:44

Oh OP! I'm so sorry to hear this. We had cowboy builders in our house and to this day I still get upset about it when I think about it. It's horrible that these people come into your home, cause such distress and yet get laid for the privilege!

The last thing you want now is to undersell your home when you have had to spend so much to get it put right. Without the pictures of the kitchen, you may get less viewers and therefore less potential offers to chose from so don't let this out you off. As others have said, watermark the pictures or could you perhaps leave the pictures off the internet but they can be available if anyone contacts the estate agent?

All the best selling your house x

LoveQuinnOhDearyMe · 13/05/2023 16:52

No kitchen photos says to me that the kitchen is well out of date, in really bad state, not usable, not functioning……it requires renovation which means I need to think of adding an additional 20k to my purchase to sort the kitchen out.

Now a new kitchen is my dream, mine is definitely out of date (it was cool in 2008) but it functions and is solid. But I would put the pictures up. I’ve seen much older on houses I look at. People can then make an informed choice.

LoveQuinnOhDearyMe · 13/05/2023 16:55

Sorry pressed send to soon!

I think honesty is the best policy but totally get why you don’t want the pictures public. But it will put some off. Agree with above - make them available if you contact the estate agent.

It will put off people yes but you know what it’s amazing what some people have access to in terms of people and resources to put things right on a house they buy and some people aren’t easily scared off. Best of luck selling its such a drag of a process

user10675345 · 13/05/2023 16:56

I wouldn't view. End of.

bettytaghetti · 13/05/2023 16:56

Just wondering if the company using the photos would actually be a good thing in that it could be some sort of admission of liability? Might then have recourse in the courts to chase the "new" company.

lljkk · 13/05/2023 17:09

If I liked the house otherwise then no kitchen pics would make zero difference to whether I viewed. I'd come along & decide in person.

What would put me off viewing is pictures that show the place is a true wreck & needs a builder-buyer to sort it out.

GP75 · 13/05/2023 17:11

No chance would I view a house if they've not put photos of the kitchen up. It's the heart of the home and of you don't have photos it means it's AWFUL!

EverydayParis · 13/05/2023 17:24

nocoolnamesleft · 13/05/2023 15:01

If you don't include kitchen photos, then it will probably mean these cowboys have cost you even more money. Don't let them do that to you. Sell your house for what it's worth.

👏such a good perspective

Whiteroomjoy · 13/05/2023 17:25

Op, I’m in a similar situation having dealt with a builder who literally verbally abused me down the phone - screaming, swearing accusing me of things which were actually quite bonkers (like I as to Blair why he got through 3 electrical sub contractors despite me only having met one of them once and having a nice chat with the bloke about his dogs over a cuppa 🤦‍♀️). I live on my own in my 60s. It was scary, Transpired my job (massively over running, disasters happening, extra costs he needed to pay for given his screw ups) was eating his profits and he wanted me to bail immediately I’d paid the last big instalment. He literally changed overnight. I ended up at GPs and on medication, with panc anttacks, and it took me months to recover.

his web site uses photos of my project.

I could lie awake at night and say fuck that , how dare he. But I don’t …here’s the thing, if I want to empty a builder or kitchen fitter I ask for references. I base it on what people say not a few pretty pictures.

ok, in my case it didn’t help me, as he changed his business model just after I contracted him unbeknown to me.

At the end of project, my builder turned on the old sweetness and light bit again, he said he was prepared to “move on and forget the issues” 🤣🤣🤣🤯. He knew I could do a lot of damage if he let loose future customers on me. So, he has a few photos, no descriptions or identifying features, and he’s lost a customer review he could have got. The quality of what was done was actualy very good, it was the crap project management and shite comms and his attitude that was the issue. So more fool him if he can’t run a business properly

I take a degree of comfort that there is only so long he can treat customers like that before his reputation proceeds him and he goes bust.

this company you dealt with has gone bust once. Thy have already got a group of deeply unhappy and stressed customers that won’t give decent reviews. Sooner or later they will go out of business again. They will. Don’t let them control your sale.

Imho, You’ll save an awful lot of dragging a ball and chain of negative emotions around with you if you let go and just say “fuck it, I don’t care about the, and their future journey into bankruptcies again” and just get on selling the hose along the path of least resistance. You can bet your bottom dollar they don’t think about it, it won’t impact them, and they just don’t care. You caring about it so much, and trying to change their future by limiting access to a few photos will not change their attitude one jot.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/05/2023 17:25

@DailyMaui

that's really interesting, things have changed since I last shot a cookery programme.

I noticed that Michel Roux ‘ series set in France had a ‘kitchen set builder’ credited, and I’m not sure that Rick Stein’s ‘ kitchen in France’ was actually in the house that was shown from the outside before he started cooking, because the window was in the wrong place and style. Perhaps it’s different on foreign location.

But I think you are talking about chefs hiring other peoples kitchens to film in? So the outing still applies.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 13/05/2023 17:28

Dustyourselfoff · 13/05/2023 14:53

Added to which… you can’t just change companies on a whim.

debts and liability follow you

you think they went through the rigmarole of shutting down their business and starting a new one… to get out of providing you with your kitchen?

Its called Phoenixing. There is often nothing that those who have been taken advantage of can do about it. Liabilities remain with the now dead company.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 13/05/2023 17:31

A copyright watermark is the way to go.

CabernetSauvignon · 13/05/2023 17:33

Blankspacehere · 13/05/2023 12:02

Woah I didn't expect so many replies.

No issue with the kitchen being seen in real life, just I don't want photos in the Internet.

It's a recently renovated lovely kitchen and the written description will detail that.

There's a few of you on here who would see past the lack of photos and still take a punt; that's heartening.

But do you want to limit potential viewings to the few who wouldn't be put off? I must say I'm puzzled by your logic. Why is it just the kitchen you're private about, why not the rest of the house? I would certainly be wondering what you are trying to hide.

poetryandwine · 13/05/2023 17:34

Good luck, OP. This sounds incredibly stressful. I also agree with @nocoolnamesleft that it is best to show some watermarked photos and think of these bastards as helping you to maximise the price you will get for your house.

CabernetSauvignon · 13/05/2023 17:37

Oops, sorry, OP, I didn't see that you'd d given an explanation further down the thread. Ignore my post.

Mirabai · 13/05/2023 17:37

DailyMaui · 13/05/2023 16:37

I film cookery series with celeb chefs in domestic kitchens - I have specific requirements: island hob (prefer gas), lots of space in front and side of said hob for tracks, no shiny white, no black/dark cupboards, no reflective backgrounds, must have a decent utility room for my home economist, use of living room, dining area and toilet, decent garden or at least nice immediate view from the side of the hob. I love a colourful kitchen. I filmed in a stunning Inchyra blue one last year. I prefer the owners to not be there when we film as they are rarely quiet when they stay.

I've only done one in a specific kitchen set in the last 7 years. I prefer kitchens in real homes as they just have a better feel. My only bugbear is having to clean them myself before the shoot - especially since the booking fee includes cleaning. I love finding new kitchen locations. There are some absolutely stunning homes out there. Expensive to hire though.

Gordon Ramsay certainly films in his own kitchen. But I think he constructed it as an extension with filming in mind.