To think Camilla should not have been crowned Queen

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She should have been Princess Consort as we were told she would be. Instead the usual airbrushing of history to try and make her acceptable by clever spinning. And positive press. Bit sickening since Edward VIII had to abdicate over marrying a divorced woman.

@CwmYoy@CwmYoy in don't care about camilla crowned queen but I can't totally understand that some people still Remeber her and the pain and trauma she went through... One doesn't have to be a groupie to empathise.

Who care’s she’s no better or worse than anyone else - it’s all bullshit

Except they never said that

I should put it in the suggestion box at Bucky Palace if I were you. Let us know how it goes.

You kinda do, considering that Diana was the OW in the marriages of various women (I’m not sure how her husband cheating on her first would lessen their pain as a result of her actions?), and that gets routinely excused or ignored by those bleating about Camilla.

It isn't about her being previously married. She was the OW throughout somebody else's marriage and has landed on her feet thanks to cooperating with the right advisors. It didn't happen overnight but it has still happened.

Diana explained that she was only cheating to get back at Charles for doing it to her. She wanted him to feel the pain but of course, he didn't because he gave zero fucks about her.

Albert of Saxe-Coburg Gotha was married to Queen Regnant Victoria. His title was the Prince Consort, but he was also commonly known both then and now as “Prince Albert”. And so Camilla - she is the Queen Consort, also known as “The Queen”. Just like Albert, and Mary of Teck and Elizabeth Bowes Lyon.

So it was OK for Julia Carling and the wives of Diana's other side pieces to feel the pain of being cheated on?

Absolutely. That is what I meant. A reward for years of adultery.

Will Carling was cheating all over the place.

And apparently Camilla only started a relationship with Charles again as she was miserable as her husband APB was a serial cheater who had never been faithful to her. No empathy for her?

Most people in this saga seem to have been in unwise marriages, that ed to a lot of unhappiness. I don’t begrudge anyone their eventual happiness.

Including with Diana. Not that she was responsible for his actions, of course, but your attempts to excuse her behaviour show a complete disregard for the women who suffered as a result of her selfishness.

Diana was not a girl's girl and hardly deeply philosophical. Her poor mental health made her unable to see beyond fulfilling her own emotional needs and wants. Her big heart was mainly for the young, poor and vulnerable.

I agree with you OP

Sorry, but you've said that she cheated on Charles to get back at him for the pain he caused her by cheating. Yet now you're saying she couldn't see that she in turn was causing the same pain to other women because she was 'hardly deeply philosophical'? How 'philosophical' do you need to be?

And couldn't you argue that Camilla only rekindled her relationship with Charles after her own husband had cheated on her for years? Or is that different?

She was trying to hit back at Charles, she was also experimenting with being the femme fatale, the scarlet lady and various other things to remove herself from the naive and sheltered girl who got duped at age nineteen.

I do not believe for a single moment that there was really a hiatus in Charles' adultery. It's easy to claim that now. There is no proof of that other than what is now claimed and nobody around to counter it.

@LondonJax interesting thank you

George IV married bigamously - still king.
Henry VIII with divorces aplenty - still king
Anne Boleyn king's mistress - still queen
Eleanor of Aquitaine divorced - still queen

I think you need to look for a whole different family if you want only scandal & divorce-free married couples to reign.

She was trying to hit back at Charles, she was also experimenting with being the femme fatale, the scarlet lady and various other things to remove herself from the naive and sheltered girl who got duped at age nineteen.

She told you that herself did she?

I guess as long as Diana felt 'empowered', other women don't count.

There's been a lot of mission creep with Camilla from the original promise she'd be princess consort to the late queen apparently saying she could be queen consort to being crowned queen. Not to mention the mind-boggling amount of propaganda, astroturfing and attacks on her predecessor including horrible smears from Diana's own son. It's all very unpleasant but forelock-tuggers are having none of it. (the Diana stuff was a bit before my time so I don't have an opinion on it, it'd be nice if Camilla fans were held to the standard they expect anyone disagreeing with them to conform to though)

She went from arrested development to a level of promiscuity and her relationship with a clown like Dodi and the fact that as a mum of young children she never put on her seatbelt was further proof that her maturity had still not caught up with her years.

But she would have got there eventually and I think she would have reached out and apologised to all of those women. She never got the opportunity to take stock. She went from feeling trapped to her summer-of-love phase and suddenly her time was up.

@Alltheprettyseahorses which son?

If divorced people can't be crowned king/queen that includes Charles.

I don't think either of them should have been crowned to be honest.

It all seems a bit out of touch now.