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Roussette · 06/05/2023 10:25

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 10:22

Good. They should be arrested. The Coronation isn’t a pro-monarchy protest with the Republican “not my king” people as counter protesters being unlawfully suppressed.

There is no right for them to be there at the coronation and to disrupt it. There is no such right to protest in a way that causes a public order offence.

And it should be applauded that this is being kept as a protest free day especially since the Coronation is a family event with children present. It’s a safeguarding issue if you allow pop up protests around children.

So people should be arrested for getting out of a van, is that what you're saying?

They had liaised with police as to where they could stand. The place that was agreed would not have disrupted ANYONE.

I do hope you never want to protest about something in the future and find it is 'a no protest day'.

Don't be ridiculous with safeguarding issues... seriously, that is embarrassing!

rattymol · 06/05/2023 10:26

@m00rfarm thanks for confirming the country. It is being reported in countries with closer ties to the UK.

Erex · 06/05/2023 10:27

I'm glad media in other countries is picking up on this, it's frightening.

Just look at posters on this thread coming out with nonsense such as it's okay because they'll ruin others' enjoyment of the day, scary and sad how some people will happily roll over and accept it - until their rights are infringed upon, of course.

Tarantullah · 06/05/2023 10:28

themessygarden · 06/05/2023 10:21

Mainland Europe, I guess you would see if it you are following online, that is where I saw it and then on here.

However, certainly the national news in this country and the neighbouring countries have not reported it yet.

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We are insignificant to a lot of countries though, why would it make national news? Be surprised if the coronation itself was that much of a focus let alone a few out of hundreds of protestors being arrested.

limitedperiodonly · 06/05/2023 10:28

annonymousmouseinyourhouse · 06/05/2023 10:14

They can't arrest the anti abortion protestors outside hospitals who are harassing women who are seeking abortion services but can arrest the people holding a peaceful protest against the monarchy because the world is watching.

That is messed up.

They, presumably you mean the police, can if the protestors are committing an offence and they choose to act. There are exclusion zones around many of those clinics and protestors have been arrested for breaching them. Some distressing posters have been taken away under laws that prevent public display of offensive materials and there have been injunctions against the persistent use of megaphones or loud music at other protest and possibly anti abortion ones.

People have the right to peaceful protest about anything - abortion or the Monarchy - and peaceful, doesn't mean not making a noise or causing disruption. But the first duty of the police is to maintain public order. We'll have to see where it lands.

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 10:29

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 10:22

Good. They should be arrested. The Coronation isn’t a pro-monarchy protest with the Republican “not my king” people as counter protesters being unlawfully suppressed.

There is no right for them to be there at the coronation and to disrupt it. There is no such right to protest in a way that causes a public order offence.

And it should be applauded that this is being kept as a protest free day especially since the Coronation is a family event with children present. It’s a safeguarding issue if you allow pop up protests around children.

It’s not a public order offence to protest. They have every right to be there, whether counter protesting or protesting a ‘celebration’. It’s a free country and protests are allowed. I don’t think you understand the word ‘safeguarding’ whatsoever or what freedom means. It’s shocking anyone would applaud this or think nobody is allowed to protest against the monarchy, an outdated elitist organisation.

m00rfarm · 06/05/2023 10:29

Fofftwenty21 · 06/05/2023 10:24

The problem with this argument is that there is never a good time to protest! They couldn't protest when the Queen had died because she had just died, in a few weeks it will be give him a chance narrative..

Also doesn't the right to enjoy also include those who don't agree with you?

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It would appear that one of the drum horses agrees with you. The drummer is having the most horrible time on him. His legs are going to ache more than any of us can imagine by tomorrow.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 10:29

BBC commentators talking about the enthusiasm and excitement of the crowd.

Easy to have an enthusiastic crowd if you don't let anyone disagree with it.

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BatildaB · 06/05/2023 10:30

I had been planning on tuning the whole thing out but this thread and the news about the arrests prompted me to join republic for £3. Hopefully lots of people who feel similarly will. It’s an easy way to show some practical and moral support.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/05/2023 10:30

Oldsu · 06/05/2023 09:17

Trouble is the protesters wont be monitoring who joins them and therefore could be infiltrated by people who want to do serious harm, not to the RF they wont get near them but possibly to innocent bystanders. Its good they were stopped

And you don't think that those individuals infiltrate the supporters and cause serious harm?

If that was the concern, nobody would be allowed along the route at all.

Erex · 06/05/2023 10:31

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 10:29

It’s not a public order offence to protest. They have every right to be there, whether counter protesting or protesting a ‘celebration’. It’s a free country and protests are allowed. I don’t think you understand the word ‘safeguarding’ whatsoever or what freedom means. It’s shocking anyone would applaud this or think nobody is allowed to protest against the monarchy, an outdated elitist organisation.

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They will applaud it until it affects them, or the Tories bring in another law that restricts their freedom, THEN it'll be an issue.

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 10:31

Roussette · 06/05/2023 10:25

So people should be arrested for getting out of a van, is that what you're saying?

They had liaised with police as to where they could stand. The place that was agreed would not have disrupted ANYONE.

I do hope you never want to protest about something in the future and find it is 'a no protest day'.

Don't be ridiculous with safeguarding issues... seriously, that is embarrassing!

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Lol, there’s a lot more to the story than “arrested for getting out of a van”
😅

Apparently they and the van were not where they agreed if the reports on here are anything to go by.

I’ll take my chances on the “no protest day” after all this day is 1 in 25,550 days. The odds are in my favour.

I don’t find child safety ridiculous at all. Children have been trampled to death in peaceful protests.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 10:32

Apparently they and the van were not where they agreed if the reports on here are anything to go by

Can you hear yourself?

Do we live in North Korea or Russia?

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fundhermental · 06/05/2023 10:33

The local elections were a couple of days ago too tories losing hundreds of seats but the focus is on the coronation where no one will benefit, only Charles playing King with his untaxed wealth. Local elections are not a big thing but it clearly shows a huge sign where the general election will be heading but of course there shouldn't be any time to process all of this.

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 10:33

@HadalyEve I don’t find child safety ridiculous at all. Children have been trampled to death in peaceful protests. Where? Here in the uk?

Againstmachine · 06/05/2023 10:34

Good old Met police, heavy handed yet again, wonder when these lessons that have been learnt, are going to actually learn from their mistakes.

The met police are a vile bunch these days.

Tarantullah · 06/05/2023 10:34

cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 10:32

Apparently they and the van were not where they agreed if the reports on here are anything to go by

Can you hear yourself?

Do we live in North Korea or Russia?

Fuck off with the hyperbole, it's offensive. I agree there are many problematic things being pushed through parliament and the police are highly questionable, but people who flippantly use these 2 countries of which are highly repressive is ridiculous.

themessygarden · 06/05/2023 10:34

Honestly, all the main newspapers in Europe (at least), appear to not be giving the arrests any profile, maybe that will change after the coronation is over. But is is incorrect to say the arrests are being 'widely reported' abroad.

pointythings · 06/05/2023 10:35

As for it not being reported in the UK national press, that's just laughable. It's on every front page.

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 10:35

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 10:22

Good. They should be arrested. The Coronation isn’t a pro-monarchy protest with the Republican “not my king” people as counter protesters being unlawfully suppressed.

There is no right for them to be there at the coronation and to disrupt it. There is no such right to protest in a way that causes a public order offence.

And it should be applauded that this is being kept as a protest free day especially since the Coronation is a family event with children present. It’s a safeguarding issue if you allow pop up protests around children.

Lady Victoria Hervey has entered the chat.

I find this kind of anti-democracy argument utterly terrifying.

Roussette · 06/05/2023 10:35

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 10:31

Lol, there’s a lot more to the story than “arrested for getting out of a van”
😅

Apparently they and the van were not where they agreed if the reports on here are anything to go by.

I’ll take my chances on the “no protest day” after all this day is 1 in 25,550 days. The odds are in my favour.

I don’t find child safety ridiculous at all. Children have been trampled to death in peaceful protests.

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No there isn't. Have you seen the footage? I have. You haven't. It was 5 people very early this morning from Republic. Please link to the report that says they were where they shouldn't be. I'm all over this and have not seen it. I follow Republic and they have put out statements about what happened.

I would worry more about the fervent Royalists trampling children to death as they try to get a glimpse of a gold carriage. Than the 0.1% of protesters.

Anyway, you don't believe in free speech, that much is obvious.

North Korea here we come. We'll all be obliged to hang a portrait of Charles soon.... oh hang on... that's happened...

pointythings · 06/05/2023 10:35

themessygarden · 06/05/2023 10:34

Honestly, all the main newspapers in Europe (at least), appear to not be giving the arrests any profile, maybe that will change after the coronation is over. But is is incorrect to say the arrests are being 'widely reported' abroad.

As evidenced by the links posted by myself and others, this is quite simply not true.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 10:35

Fuck off with the hyperbole, it's offensive

People get arrested for protesting in those countries.

Granted we don't get long jail sentences. I think it's 6 months now but it can be more if it's disruptive.

Oh - and unlimited fines as well.

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