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MarkWithaC · 06/05/2023 15:27

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 15:23

So you’ll stick to your opinion and dismiss any evidence to the contrary?

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When did I say that? When or if the truth becomes clear obviously I'll believe it. At the moment, though, I'm sceptical.

MarkWithaC · 06/05/2023 15:29

Iwasafool · 06/05/2023 15:12

Don't you think they have a right to their opinions?

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Of course they do. Who's said they don't? Pro- and anti-monarchists should absolutely be allowed to boo/cheer/chant/shout at each other. That's a healthy democracy.

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 15:32

Washington Post article on the arrests and Charles and Camilla being less popular than the Queen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/06/republic-protests-king-charles-coronation/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

user10675345 · 06/05/2023 15:37

Prescottdanni123 · 06/05/2023 12:39

@2Manypjs

That is also awful. My grievance is with any protest that includes violence or risks animals or humans.

Hopefully you're against horse racing then.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 15:40

I wonder what Charles and William actually think about this?

It's not going to help their image. A country where people can be arrested because they think we should have a Head of State and they want to make that point known on the day of the Coronation

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HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 15:43

cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 15:40

I wonder what Charles and William actually think about this?

It's not going to help their image. A country where people can be arrested because they think we should have a Head of State and they want to make that point known on the day of the Coronation

That’s not why they were arrested.

(by the way we have a Head of State.)

Mojoj · 06/05/2023 15:44

Alargeoneplease89 · 06/05/2023 08:50

Its not really a good idea being surrounded by a lot of pro monarchy people which means police will have to deal with the anger on both sides... let's face it the antis aren't known for being peaceful.

It's one day, I don't understand why you would go through so much effort to say "not my king", it would be like me turning up to a JC talk to say "have a wash".

It's called exercising your democratic right to protest. Fucking disgrace that the Police arrested them. It's the thin edge.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 15:45

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 15:43

That’s not why they were arrested.

(by the way we have a Head of State.)

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Really....

You seem to have a lot of faith in the police.

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Notmybloodyking · 06/05/2023 15:57

OneFrenchEgg · 06/05/2023 10:10

@Notmybloodyking was a rhetorical 'can't' - choices.

Well now they absolutely can, so they probably will. The new laws have just been passed this week.

Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 15:58

I’m honestly shocked by people who still have faith in the Met Police to arrest the right people or tell the truth. It’s like you’ve missed a lot over the last few years.

pointythings · 06/05/2023 15:59

That policing bill really has been drafted to make arrest for thought crime legal. I hope that when the next government comes in, repealing it will be one of the first things they do.

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:00

cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 15:45

Really....

You seem to have a lot of faith in the police.

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No, I have faith in a lot of the independent journalists. They’re hardly biased towards the monarchy.

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:01

pointythings · 06/05/2023 15:59

That policing bill really has been drafted to make arrest for thought crime legal. I hope that when the next government comes in, repealing it will be one of the first things they do.

Please tell me how can the police know our thoughts? Really would like to know.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 16:01

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:00

No, I have faith in a lot of the independent journalists. They’re hardly biased towards the monarchy.

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What do you think Graham Smith, the CEO of Republic, was arrested for when he was taking coffee to the people with placards in the van?

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 16:03

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:01

Please tell me how can the police know our thoughts? Really would like to know.

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If there is a protest being planned, the police can use their laws to detain you, even if you are not going to go.

They will be able to track you with their facial recognition.

You may be thinking of going to the protest. But you might not even have attended it.

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2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 16:05

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:01

Please tell me how can the police know our thoughts? Really would like to know.

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Talk about wilfully misconstruing a point.

pointythings · 06/05/2023 16:06

cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 16:03

If there is a protest being planned, the police can use their laws to detain you, even if you are not going to go.

They will be able to track you with their facial recognition.

You may be thinking of going to the protest. But you might not even have attended it.

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This. So basically if you have ever been picked up by CCTV at a protest, the police can pick you up from the street even if you're just out buying new shoes. That is so far from acceptable it isn't real - and people on here think it's just fiiiiine.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 16:08

pointythings · 06/05/2023 16:06

This. So basically if you have ever been picked up by CCTV at a protest, the police can pick you up from the street even if you're just out buying new shoes. That is so far from acceptable it isn't real - and people on here think it's just fiiiiine.

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Imagine if the police saw you on facial recognition going to buy a bike lock.

They would throw the book at you.

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HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:10

2ManyPjs · 06/05/2023 16:05

Talk about wilfully misconstruing a point.

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Thought crime means certain thoughts are a crime. It is a term coined by George Orwell.

The post alleged that the “policing bill really has been drafted to make arrest for thought crime legal”

If the police can now legally arrest people for thought crime, they would need to be able to know our thoughts.

givemecoffeenow · 06/05/2023 16:10

Wait there’s a new law stopping people from protesting now??

How did I miss this😶…

Im not anti royal or particularly for them either. But I do think people should have the right to a peaceful protest. Kind of scary that laws are now taking away that right.

HadalyEve · 06/05/2023 16:11

pointythings · 06/05/2023 16:06

This. So basically if you have ever been picked up by CCTV at a protest, the police can pick you up from the street even if you're just out buying new shoes. That is so far from acceptable it isn't real - and people on here think it's just fiiiiine.

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You’re right that it isn’t real.

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cakeorwine · 06/05/2023 16:11

If the police can now legally arrest people for thought crime, they would need to be able to know our thoughts

If I said to to the police that I was thinking of going to a protest, they could arrest me.

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Whaeanui · 06/05/2023 16:11

No, I have faith in a lot of the independent journalists.
Which one’s? I have as much of a distrust of media as I do the police and politicians and I think it’s healthy that the public do. But perhaps you have a point and can highlight some good independent ones that are on the ground at events and provide unbiased reporting.

3dogsandarabbit · 06/05/2023 16:11

Good, I don't want to watch stupid twatty people with placards saying "not my king". If you live in this country then he is your King so go and do something useful instead.