To think botox and fillers aren't high maintenance?

[Fifi0]

I'm pretty low effort , I don't get my nails done natural nails only for work so its a waste of money , eyebrows once in a while I find it more painful than the botox. I get my hair done every 3 months , no fake tan or lashes. I do have botox in my forehead and jaw no fillers. I clench and helps with the pain , botox helps makeup go on more smoothly and fresher. It takes literally 10-20 minutes then you don't need to go back for months. Fillers are even less time consuming they last for 12-18 months I dont have any fillers. Facials temporarily help for like a few days but still time consuming . The lashes , fake nails and spray tans are much more time consuming.

AIBU botox and fillers isn't high maintenance?

WTF does ‘stay snatched’ mean??

People on the other thread were saying botox is really high maintenance when it's not compared to other popular beauty treatments. It takes 10 minutes every 4 months. Nails for instance they need infilling every few weeks and it takes ages.

High maintenance can include cost as well as time. How much money do you spend a year on Botox and fillers?

Objectively, it’s high maintenance compared to my beauty regime, as I don’t have my nails done etc either. It will be lower maintenance than some other people’s beauty regimes. If you’re happy with it, why does it matter?

I see it as high maintenance, but that’s my perspective because I don’t do nails, make up, lashes, facials etc. I don’t have any treatments apart from having my hair done a couple of times a year, and a sports massage every few months (which is therapeutic rather than aesthetic treatment).

Being ‘high maintenance’ is not a good or bad thing though. It’s just a thing. Some people care more than others do about looking groomed/smooth/young.

High maintenance can include cost as well as time. How much money do you spend a year on Botox and fillers?
I spend £700 on botox and fillers
About £380 on my hair
£150 on makeup and skin care.
Nails once or twice a year cost about £70

After reading the other thread, I was convinced there were some closet marketers for Botox and fillers.

As there are on this thread.

Why are there so many threads on making women's faces look fake and unrealistic right now?

It’s all relative.

If you need Botox or fillers because of pain or wrinkles then it’s not as high maintenance as doing other things to help.

My friend suffers with a bad neck/back and needs injections in her spine regularly.
They’re a lot of faff and expensive but if she didn’t have them she’d spend lots of time and money on strong pain killers, chiropractors, special insoles etc.

I personally don’t need Botox or fillers so for me they would be high maintenance.

I do my own nails, eyebrows and tan on a Sunday which takes an hour max. which I don’t find high maintenance but someone else may.

Let me ask you then @Fifi0 , you think you are not high maintenance. But in normal speech there is only low and high. What would you call somebody who doesn't do what you don't do, and ALSO doesn't do what you do? I'd like to add that I think 10 minutes a day on skin and make up is actually quite a lot.

It affects everybody.

Every time a woman goes along with this sexist conditioning and chooses the false artificial look over the normal natural one, it confirms stereotypes and prejudices in both men and women, that woman shouldn't look natural, but should spend time and money conforming to whatever the current silly unnatural fad is, whoever ridiculous it looks. woman are expected to do as they are told, and look amusing

I didn’t say ‘how does someone having cosmetic procedures affect society as a whole’, I said how does other people calling the OP ‘high maintenance’ affect her life? Why does she care what other people think about her beauty regime, if she’s happy with her choices?

I had botox in my bowel pre surgery. Bloody brilliant! Slightly painful :/

@Nimbostratus100 it's an interesting point. However, a lot of Botox and fillers don't make you look artificial, you wouldn't actually notice on a lot of women.

Are we holding up the patriarchy if no one knows?

I mean I do get your point, for example I believe prostitution, working in strip clubs and surrogacy are all exploitation of women. This sex work is work or empowerment is the biggest lie liberal feminism ever sold to women.

However if I in my 50's avoid scrutiny by men because of my aging forehead, in my senior position as a woman and mentor younger women into good careers surely Botox is a good thing and not anti woman. It also means as a single mum I get to maintain my career.

I'd actually argue my botox and fillers are my secret weapons against the patriarchy

So high maintenance is, in your opinion, someone who spends even more money and effort on their appearance than you do.
I think it's the same thing as people who are wealthy (say top 5 or 10% of wealth in the UK) saying they are not wealthy because there are always people who are better off even the objectively, based on comparable, they are.
I'm not sure what the point of this thread on AIBU was as, despite 90% of people thinking that you are high maintenance, you continue to say that you are not.

Maybe. I’m managing to maintain (and advance) my senior career without Botox though.

Maybe this putting down some women’s choice to have botox is fueling patriarchy.
Divide and rule and all that.

I'll probs have no qualms about it when I get to the age where I feel it'd make me look better. It's much less maintenance than spending 1.5hrs in the gym 3x a week.

Yabu. " just said I have botox to relieve the pain from jaw pain as well as a little in my forehead. That's sexist and pointless ok. 🙄 IF that is the case it's not beauty maintenance and you don't need to list it then do you.

I may as well say I have botox as I've had it for anal fissures.

Thanks OP- you've just reminded me that I want to try teat trough fillers. I Iove a bit of Botox now & then- as PPs have said, I also don't have my nails done & I cut & colour my own hair (it's long so quite easy to just trim).

Great advertising if you do work for a clinic!

• tear trough obvs!

I’m definitely not high maintenance and have Botox. It looks very natural on me and I look less tired and grumpy😂

doesn’t matter whether it is or isn’t and what anyone else thinks to me

I’ve considered this, what does it do?

Except there isn't any stereotype that women shouldn't look natural, is there?
The stereotype is that women should look visually pleasing; which results in those that are being more highly valued than those that aren't. Which is to say the least, unfortunate.
However, if no women ever artificially enhanced her appearance, this would not change in the slightest. Society wouldn't suddenly start placing a higher value on women's personalities and minds.
All that would happen is that naturally beautiful women would be more highly valued than the rest, and plainer women would be susceptible to the same self esteem issues by comparing themselves to them.
Just as we did when I was a teen when no one had procedures.
Another stereotype about women is that they're uusually in some way to blame for the ills of the world. Your post is an excellent example.

Hi @Starhead69!

It's for those of us that have hollows/eye bags under the eyes. I asked about it & my dentist said it can work really well for some but can also puff up under the eye if overdone.

I may have to consider eye bag removal surgery long term (I look a lot younger than my age apparently but have horrific bags & hollows simultaneously which makeup doesn't cover - nice!).

So @Nimbostratus100 you’re saying any woman who deviates from an entirely ‘natural’ look is holding up the patriarchy?

we aren’t allowed to do anything that just makes us feel good?

no makeup/hair removal/heels/hair dye/flattering dresses?

we must all be au natural all the time?

and there was I thinking that feminism was about giving women autonomy and choices.

thank goodness you’re here to tell us all how to woman correctly!