To think botox and fillers aren't high maintenance?

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I'm pretty low effort , I don't get my nails done natural nails only for work so its a waste of money , eyebrows once in a while I find it more painful than the botox. I get my hair done every 3 months , no fake tan or lashes. I do have botox in my forehead and jaw no fillers. I clench and helps with the pain , botox helps makeup go on more smoothly and fresher. It takes literally 10-20 minutes then you don't need to go back for months. Fillers are even less time consuming they last for 12-18 months I dont have any fillers. Facials temporarily help for like a few days but still time consuming . The lashes , fake nails and spray tans are much more time consuming.

AIBU botox and fillers isn't high maintenance?

Yes and if you have chronic pain it's amazing. No more pain killers because the pain in my jaw is gone.

I know when my botox is wearing off as the migraines kick in, hideous things.

I am not criticising people for having these procedures - each to their own. But you can't say it is low maintenance by any stretch of the imagination.

Where did you look to source someone to do it for jaw clenching/teeth grinding? A normal 'beautician' who does it for skin smoothness or someone more specialist? I do this at night but wouldn't know who to go to. If you have it done for that does it have any effect on your facial appearance and if so how? I like the possibility of paying for something that is dual purpose!

I'm nearly 35 and becoming a little self conscious about fine lines so when I was watching a 70s film recently, I noticed that the young female actors actually had them (and still looked beautiful obviously) so I guess botox and fillers are a lot more common these days than I thought. Still considering it like.

Dentist.

I dont consider myself high maintenance. I have botox every four months, fillers every year, hair every 3 months. Manicure and pedicure every 3-4 weeks, eyebrows threaded every 2-3 weeks and legs/ armpits waxed every 4-6 weeks! It just takes more work to look decent as you age imo!

Given there are fewer than 1 million Botox injections a year in the uk

And that many people get them for medical reasons

And many people go twice a year for cosmetic reasons

It's pretty obvious that they are not common place at all

But there is a whole industry keen to convince us otherwise

There are a lot of people who remind me of mr Elliott in persuasion

He was a buffoon in Jane Austen's eyes

Love this 😂😂

What on earth would you consider high maintenance then?

I wouldn't call it high maintenance because I really dislike the concept and the phrase. It feels to me like just one more way to make sure that, no matter how a girl responds to the way society guides and teaches girls to look, behave, and think about themselves, and no matter how a girl or woman deals with the expectations and pressures placed on her (or that she places on herself, at least partly as a result of external influences) purely because she's female, she'll be in the wrong somehow or other. And "maintenance" is also a slightly dehumanising word choice IMO — I'd guess originally selected because it's meant to be a bit humorous, but for me the laugh isn't worth the implications.

I work full time and I'm a single mum. Botox and fillers are my go to that I actually have time for. I'm 51 and loving the results.

Definitely not high maintenance.

Can you list the substances in Botox that are poisonous please.

I mean... I do find it to be high maintenance, but what does it matter?
Doing high maintenance things is not bad per se.

I have blue hair with a pink fringe. 100% high maintenance. I have to redo the pink every 3 weeks, and have to bleach the roots and re do the blue every 3 months, when I also cut it.

It doesnt cost me a lot of money, cause I do it all myself, but it takes me a whole day, between bleaching, dying and cutting.

Oh fuck off 😂😂

If someone else getting Botox makes you feel inadequate that's your own self esteem issues.

Yep, this is it. Little refresh in your 40s/50s, probably not for me, but not too awful. But it's everywhere now, on young and attractive women, or older once beautiful women now looking really quite strange after multiple treatments. It's being pushed on us. I'm really sad for my dd that this it now.

Botulinum toxin…?

I'd say that having a foreign substance injected into your face, for the sole purpose of trying to look less old, is definitely towards the higher end of the maintenance scale.

Not in terms of time, no. But I think it's more than what most women do.
I have a friend, three kids, works full time and runs daily. She washes and blow dries her hair daily, gets it coloured every six weeks, nails always look great and I'm sure she doesn't have a hair on her body. I don't know how she does it (her kids are older now but she's always been like this). House immaculate too - but her husband is fussy so bet he's as responsible for that as she is. No outside help except before her kids went to school.

I know some people who use Botox for muscle spasms after injury or for long term conditions.
When it’s used cosmetically I’m always interested in what it is that makes men or women unhappy about themselves without it. Injecting one of the most potent toxins into yourself for cosmetic purposes must have strong reasons.

Just embrace being high maintenance. You can spend any amount of money and time on your appearance that you like.

I think sometimes people equate being high maintenance in appearance with being high maintenance generally- fussy, hard to please, low resilience and liable to whinge a lot. But IME these things don't go together at all. I know people who spend a fortune on their looks who are nonetheless resilient, glass-half-full people in general, and I know people who spend next to nothing on their looks but are generally massive whingers and never satisfied. The things are completely unrelated.

What would be 'high maintenance' in your opinion if not all these treatments?

I don't ever want Botox or fillers, but then I don't think I need them. I am happy with my looks at 53. I haven't "let myself go" because I don't have them.

I know a few women who have had them, and the ones I know are all deeply insecure, but not saying that is everyone.

If I take my SIL for example. She has Botox and fillers, and wears a lot of makeup, accessories and always has her hair done. However, she also knows she is 3 stone overweight and very unfit and unhealthy. Surely if you want to look good, that is what you need to spend your time and money on?

I supposed it is different horses for different courses. I think people who have Botox etc. are massively vain, but then I suppose I am no better because I spend hours and hours down the gym so I am super fit because I don't want to be fat.

I don't really get this obsession with glorifying "low maintenance."

We all have different priorities.

I give myself a massage each night with facial oil, and I like scented products, is this high maintenance? And if so... Who cares?

I don't wear make up but I like to get my nails done.

I would never get botox but so many women do... The idea of high or low maintenance makes no sense

I agree with this. I don’t wear make up, or have my nails done professionally, or have Botox/fillers. I haven’t ‘let myself go’ though. I eat well, drink lots of water, exercise… all things that make me look and feel good. Not spending lots of money or time on their appearance doesn’t mean they’ve let themselves go 🤷🏻‍♀️. I am very happy with how I look.