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Controlled Explosion outside Buckingham Palace

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ninemonthstime · 03/05/2023 03:13

I've just read a newspaper article that states that the police undertook a controlled explosion outside Buckingham Palace.

According to the article the suspect said "I'm going to kill the king". However police have said it isn't being treated as a terrorist incident.

Can someone please explain what is classed as a terrorist incident.

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GarlicGrace · 03/05/2023 03:16

The event is not currently being treated as terror-related - instead it is understood to be an isolated mental health incident.

The guy threw some shotgun cartridges over the garden wall. He didn't have a gun.

Gingernaut · 03/05/2023 03:16

Sounds like a random nutter, rather than someone with any political agenda

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65464885 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65464885]]

Gingernaut · 03/05/2023 03:17

I genuinely don't know what went wrong with that link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65464885

Tabootle · 03/05/2023 06:36

It mentions mental health in the BBC article so we can assume the perpetrator is white and therefore they won't mention terrorism. I actually think it falls under the CPS definition.

Arginalia · 03/05/2023 06:39

I presume what they mean is that it wasn't politically motivated.

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 03/05/2023 06:40

As above:
White British= mental health issues
White American= lone wolf
Brown= terrorist

CrapBucket · 03/05/2023 06:44

‘Just’ your everyday institutionalised racism…

NuttyYouSayHmmmmmn · 03/05/2023 06:50

It’s blatant, isn’t it?

Oysterbabe · 03/05/2023 06:59

To be fair it sounds like he wasn't very serious about killing the king. Lobbing shotgun cartridges over a wall isn't going to get him very far.

Controlled Explosion outside Buckingham Palace
LittleFreakJezebel · 03/05/2023 07:00

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 03/05/2023 06:40

As above:
White British= mental health issues
White American= lone wolf
Brown= terrorist

Hit the nail on the head.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/05/2023 07:01

He’s a bit early.

It’s not until Saturday.

kethuphouse · 03/05/2023 07:01

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 03/05/2023 06:40

As above:
White British= mental health issues
White American= lone wolf
Brown= terrorist

This

GarlicGrace · 03/05/2023 07:17

I do think that our sometimes over-zealous police would have trouble convincing themselves of a terrorist threat from an individual lobbing shotgun cartridges over the gate, with no means or apparent intention of detonating them, four days before the coronation and when Charles wasn't at B. Palace - no matter how brown or Muslim or transphobic the person was.

I'm unclear as to what the 'controlled explosion' was. Perhaps they just exploded any cartridges he still had on him? If he'd had a bomb or something, the statement would have said.

ThisSingleMama · 03/05/2023 07:17

He had a knife also

Good knows what his intentions were!

iloveeverykindofcat · 03/05/2023 07:20

It means he's White

BMW6 · 03/05/2023 07:40

Wasn't the Welsh bloke who drove a van at a group of Muslims charged under Act of Terrorism?

Juanne · 03/05/2023 07:44

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/05/2023 07:01

He’s a bit early.

It’s not until Saturday.

Hear! Hear!

Arginalia · 03/05/2023 07:45

I'm unclear as to what the 'controlled explosion' was. Perhaps they just exploded any cartridges he still had on him? If he'd had a bomb or something, the statement would have said.

The BBC report describes 'suspected shotgun cartridges' so the controlled detonation would have been in case they were bombs.

Tabootle · 03/05/2023 07:46

BMW6 · 03/05/2023 07:40

Wasn't the Welsh bloke who drove a van at a group of Muslims charged under Act of Terrorism?

He was charged with murder and attempted murder, perhaps had an additional charge on top. News reports mention it was terrorism related but unsure if he was actually charged under that.

DownNative · 03/05/2023 07:48

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 03/05/2023 06:40

As above:
White British= mental health issues
White American= lone wolf
Brown= terrorist

Nonsense.

Are you trying to say the New IRA who shot DCI John Caldwell weren't white?

That was rightly defined as terrorism since its a group with a political intent behind their acts of terrorism.

Terrorism doesn't simply mean causing terror.

Clymene · 03/05/2023 07:56

For a country which has prosecuted lots of white people for terrorism offences, the responses on this thread are bizarre. Some of you need to remember we're not the US.

Wonnle · 03/05/2023 07:59

I remember when Mandela was a "terrorist"

Clymene · 03/05/2023 08:00

FYI, here is the definition in U.K. law;

The Terrorism Act 2000 defines terrorism, both in and outside of the UK, as the use or threat of one or more of the actions listed below, and where they are designed to influence the government, or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public. The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

Clymene · 03/05/2023 08:01

Oops, missed the actions:

The specific actions included are:
• serious violence against a person;
• serious damage to property;
• endangering a person's life (other than that of the person committing the action);
• creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public; and
• action designed to seriously interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.

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