Controlled Explosion outside Buckingham Palace

[ninemonthstime]

I've just read a newspaper article that states that the police undertook a controlled explosion outside Buckingham Palace.

According to the article the suspect said "I'm going to kill the king". However police have said it isn't being treated as a terrorist incident.

Can someone please explain what is classed as a terrorist incident.

It was sarcasm 🙄

Mandela was also friends with dictators such as Cuba's Fidel Castro and Libya's Colonel Gaddafi.

Gaddafi, like Mandela, supported Provisional Sinn Féin and Provisional IRA in their unjustified campaign of terrorist human rights abuses. Gaddafi supplied the Provisionals with a range of weapons, including the semtex used in bombings in Northern Ireland and England.

Mandela has been mythologised beyond belief and his terrorist history swept under the carpet. Shameful.

The (white) Baader Meinhof gang operating in West Germany in the 70s were definitely considered terrorists and not mentally disturbed people.

There’s a specialist joint team between police and mental health services that handles people with fixations on prominent politicians and members of the royal family. They engage with local mental health services and police forced when necessary.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixated_Threat_Assessment_Centre

Often these behaviours are also causing substantial wider problems for fixated individuals, their families and communities. This means that there is often existing awareness of individuals who might act dangerously towards others in pursuit of these fixations.

They are not terrorists. Radicalised people very often have poor mental health but that is a different issue.

This is nothing to do with racial profiling.

Beside the point. He had lobbed the cartridges over the gate. Clearly had no plan to detonate them

The terrorist threat in the 70s 80s with which we lived, checking under our cars every morning before putting our children into their seats, was definitely the work of 'white' people, racist comments like yours demonstrate total ignorance of history and are designed to inflame that which you pretend to abhor.

Another person with a better understanding of the history of terrorism, well said.

As defined by Thatcher, who whilst secretly negotiating with the IRA claimed not to talk to terrorists.

I'm unclear as to what the 'controlled explosion' was. Perhaps they just exploded any cartridges he still had on him? If he'd had a bomb or something, the statement would have said

It means they destroyed the cartridges on the spot, rather than run the risks of trying to remove them and do it somewhere else (better to destroy unsafe, or potentially unsafe ammunition)

Not possible, it's not been shown on Netfibs and Scooby hasn't put in his two pen'orth

Not true at all. Far right/neo Nazi groups are the greatest terrorist risk in my part of the England.

This is according to recent training I received from the police.

Anyone that's worked in mental health will know how much of a magnet the Royal family are for people who are unwell.

Ian Ball, who tried to kidnap Princess Anne in the '70s is still in Broadmoor.

No, as defined by Mandela's own behaviour in setting up the terrorist wing of the ANC party called MK aka "Spear Of The Nation". You know, the terrorist group that mostly murdered black civilians including teenage children. A 14 year old boy was accused by ANC/MK of being an informer and necklaced by his wife, Winnie Mandela.

Mandela supported other terrorist organisations such as PSF/PIRA and was friends with dictators such as Castro and Gaddafi.

Whatever Mandela was, it's clear he was not a Saint or a good man...

Thanks for all your messages.

I see that a lot of you feel the same way as myself, ie it's based on skin colour!

But it's been proven with examples that the label of terrorism is NOT and NEVER has been based on anyone's skin colour. We don't even have to go back 25, 30 or 40 years to prove it!

Those who believe it is are simply those with zero experience of terrorism, don't read literature about terrorism and have never studied terrorism/counter-terrorism.

What creates the impression for the layperson who believes the label of terrorism is based on someone's skin colour is the absolute fact that the most dangerous terrorist organisations in the world today the following:

Taliban, Islamic State (IS) and its affiliates, followed by al-Shabaab, Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) and Jamaat Nusrat Al-Islam wal Muslimeen (JNIM).

In previous decades such as the 1970s into the 1990s, the most dangerous terrorist organisation in the world was the Provisional I.R.A whose political wing is Provisional Sinn Féin.

Today, the most dangerous terrorist organisation in the world is not Islamic State, but the Taliban.

At the end of the day, those who perceive that the label of terrorism is based on skin colour are quite simply incorrect and wrong.

Terrorism is based on behaviour. That's why the Taliban, Islamic State, New IRA and the UDA are all labelled as terrorist groups. The first two are several times more dangerous than the last two.

So even though I've given you the definition of terrorism and other posters have provided a plethora of evidence that 'your feeling' is wrong, you've decided to cherry pick the posts that support your entirely unevidenced and unfounded point of view?

I'm really not sure why you bothered asking the question

@Clymene the point is even even white people satisfy the definition of terrorist you posted, they are often explained away as having mental health issues. Brown people are not often afforded that explanation.

Nasty and wrong.

I think you can see how old people are on this. For a big chunk of my life terrorism meant the IRA

They may not even be old enough to remember that a bomb - a real one - was detonated near the ceremonial route during Charles's installation as PoW

And they were white too ...

Again, this is simply not true as the examples of the New IRA shooting PSNI DCI John Caldwell in February this year demonstrates.

The 2019 murder of Lyra McKee shows it too.

The 2012 murder of PSNI Constable Ronan Kerr shows it.

Thd real point is people like you think terrorism is about causing terror. No, that's an effect of it with the real effect being to change a Government’s or population's political views on something. Jo Cox's murderer was charged with murder with a terrorism connection.

See:

"In November 2016, 53-year-old Thomas Alexander Mair was found guilty of her murder and other offences connected to the killing in an act of terrorism. The judge concluded that Mair wanted to advance white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and its modern forms."

You're simply badly informed and spreading rubbish....

To charge someone with a terrorism offence the police have to prove sufficient evidence of a political motive: usually that motive is aligned to the aims of a proscribed organisation. Whatever else the Met may be guilty of doing wrong, they’re not getting a charge past the CPS purely on the colour of the offender’s skin.

My granddad was arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist once, he’s Irish, it was the 1970s, he fell asleep on a train and ended up in Yorkshire, woke up was confused, train staff couldn’t understand his accent, he couldn’t understand their accent, they called the police.

also in the late 60s mum and her parents came over from Ireland to visit her brother in London. Someone called the police to say a load of Irish people had turned up and police came round and searched the house

nowadays everyone seems to love the Irish

It's only terrorism when the perpetrator is brown!

The IRA??