To think if you don't like my dogs barking at you get the hell off my drive

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I'll start this by saying I am tired and miserable so am in no mood to be reasonable today AT ALL.

I have many dogs. Large dogs. There are dog flaps so they can run in and out as they wish onto the property. I am rural and one of the purposes of the dogs is to alert me to people around, so I aren't bothered by them barking if someone comes to the gate.

The gateway to my drive is set back about 15ft so that I can park the car without having to open the gates and drive in. Its clearly my driveway and separate from the road.

There is this one cyclist who every single time after cycling up the hill stops and pulls into the drive and has a rest. Now he could stop on the other side of the road where there is a public track, or he could cycle for like another 30ft and stop at the entrance to the forest but no he chills in the drive. Every. Single. Time.

The dogs bark at him. He shouts at them to be quite. They obviously ignore him. I used to shout them back in but the last few weeks I haven't bothered because well I'm grumpy.

Today my mum has arrived to visit and the cyclist is yet again in the drive. He's had a bit of a go at her. She's come in mithering at me so I've gone out and told him very rudely that if he doesn't like them barking at him to stop standing on the fucking drive. It got into a bit of a heated discussion before I stormed off. He's going to report me apparently as they are intimidating and its illegal to have a camera and no signs and blah blah blah.

So whilst I might BU to have gone out and created more drama instead of ignoring him AIBU to think if you don't want to be barked at get the fuck off my land?

Aww they're gorgeous😍

You were unreasonable to swear.

You should have dealt with it in a calm but firm more business like way.

When you start swearing you lose straightaway. You set the tone for how you want the conversation to go.

Nope. Do you honestly think 'I say, would you mind awfully not trespassing on my drive, there's a good fellow' would cut any tripe with an entitled knob end like this? If he's doing if frequently when there are other rest spots available very close by then he's doing it deliberately.

Plus he started swearing first at OP's mum. Tone had already been set.

As you say, it's disgusting that (some) people are more upset about laydeeez swearing than they are by women being verbally abused by men on their own property. That tells me a lot about THEM.

Yeah.

I'm not a fan of dogs, however if I was a cyclist I would just park up for a rest somewhere else if I didn't like the dogs barking! He is a total arse. Let him report you, he won't get far.

I'm not sure if the cyclist swore at the OPs mum - but really that's irrelevant, what matters is that whatever he did say shook her up.

I don't know how you've got away with being told how unreasonable you are for only showing Some of the Dog Squad.

With-holding the rest rest of crew from view ? <tut>

I see the #BeKind Brigade paid a visit to this thread. 😒 Yeah OP, your reaction was spot on. My American must be showing but you come onto my property you get to deal with whatever reaction I choose to have. If it includes telling you to piss off and calling you every name in the book, then so be it. Especially after taunting my dogs and swearing and threatening my mother.

What an arrogant POS he is!
He thinks he owns everything because he is.... 'A MAN'
leaning on your car for a rest 😲
Ducking hell!! I'd pour boiling oil on him from the ramparts

I am not a dog person (I am forever complaining on here about dogs) however if I was you I would have set my dogs on him!
Very hypocritical I know 😶

Guess we women need to go on that assertiveness course after all, and should know our place, and be meek iccle wimmin who never swear.

Yup @PrettyMaybug - the reason for linking Anne Dickson's excellent assertiveness book has possibly been lost in deletions or just sheer volume of other posts now, but the PP in question told me that I don't know what assertiveness means. 😂

Which is rich coming from a poster who seems a make a point of popping up on DA/DV threads to tell women that their abuse is their own fault, & if they were only more ladylike, ie submissive ... etc etc, you get the drift.

Back on topic, I'm still all-in for a spike strip party on OP's drive. Any takers? We'll delight OP with our love of dogs & swearing, & no mothers will be wilfully insulted. What could possibly go wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_strip

As for training them not to bark? That is part of their actual job! Mine have some very impressive barks (successfully repelled the dodgy fucker caught on my CCTV sneaking through my side gate at 3am - he heard them and legged it 😄)
I can stop them on command but I wouldn’t for someone trespassing on my land!

I’m sure he wouldn’t mind if OP casually leaned on his bike while he was having a rest on her drive, leaning on her car. Right? 😁 I would so very much like to put that to the test. I would have to have very filthy hands before handling his holy bicycle. Maybe I’d have just finished cleaning out the gutters or something. Without gloves.
He probably wouldn’t survive that though. He’d bust his Lycra and self combust.

Wow that IS a lot of dogs! Is that a labdrador in the background? How many in total do you have? Do you have other animals too?

By the way, yes, I agree the cyclist is a dick

Perhaps they could send a swat team round, maybe have some surveillance in place to catch this crim that makes a pack of dogs back.

Alternatively they just may say he is allowed to stop at the end of driveways and if the dogs barking is annoying the op perhaps she should address that?

Oh, they look like good boys 🦴🍗

I am amused by the assumptions on this thread: how does everyone who describes the cyclist as "middle aged male / man in lycra" know his age? There's nothing in the OP's post about this. Only his sex.

Now THIS is a post with a proper sense of priorities 😀

But he doesn't stop at the end of driveways.

He wanders right into OP's drive, has a refreshing lean on her car, uses his time on her property to shout at her dogs, is a repeat offender, & compounded it by upsetting & scaring her mum for no reason.

Trespass laws in Scotland do not allow the right to roam on a persons garden or driveway, unless said driveway extends over several acres - search for Anne Gloag’s case . It actually clarifies the issue pretty well , for Scotland.

OP is not barking.
If you had read the post properly you’d have seen that he is on the road side of her gate but that part of her drive is her property. The gate is set back from the road. And her car is on her drive that he’s trespassing on. The car he leans on.

No assumptions made really.

Hobby cyclists wear lycra.
PP called him a MIL (man in lycra)
Another PP then chimed in by asking OP if he's a MAMIL (middle aged man in lycra).

Nobody's said this is the case, but it's highly likely, also it's fun to take the piss out of entitled dingbats like this cyclist. His age & cycling garb are irrelevant anyway - why is fun-poking speculation about it upsetting you?

Oh good grief, Sheppies are the most intuitive, fantastic dog breeds around. I can honestly say that I wouldn’t be able to walk if I hadn’t had one when I was a kid. My inability to walk had been dismissed as brain damage due to prematurity, but he kept nudging me up off the ground (when I was nearly four) and making me pull myself up on his ears and lips and fur (which I would NEVER allow my own kids to do of course) until the health nurse noticed that there was something wrong with my legs and hips, not my brain.
I have had several since then. I have a failed American assistance breed giant Shepherd (we are her assistance people) and still wouldn’t swap her.
Meanwhile, this guy sounds like he is deliberately trying to provoke the OP and her dogs. He probably gets off on victories like having dog owners fined or having dogs removed/destroyed. He sounds like the ultimate Little Man. I think keeping a log and video recordings while waiting for him to complain himself is a marvellous tactic. Odious little toads like this don’t cope well with the humiliation of being publicly discredited.

That's why I brought up the use of "mithering" as I thought it might be Scotland , in which case the laws are different .

I did a quick search but ended up more cond=fused , but I had an inkling that Trespass is a criminal matter in Scotland but elsewhere its a Civil matter .

But I didn't want to write as fact in case I was making it up

And I know "mithering" is far more used than Scotland though it was a word my Grandparent used ( Glasgow)

And I know "mithering" is far more used than Scotland though it was a word my Grandparent used ( Glasgow)

As in, I know now , I didn't before !

Are you by chance a MAMIL or married to one?