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AIBU to think this homage to the King will go badly wrong?

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MRex · 30/04/2023 06:40

According to BBC news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

There are hopes that people will say out loud: "I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

The Archbishop of Canterbury will then proclaim "God save the King", with all asked to respond: "God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever."

This is surely madness. Asking everyone in the Abbey - sure. People crowding nearby might be swayed to say "Hail the King" or something similarly short. But hoping for video footage of crowds in parks and pubs shouting a great long sentence that most don't fully buy into, then doing it again and with "live forever"! Does Charles really think he's liked that much? Is he? It doesn't seem very British at all, and seems destined to be a mess of people saying random stuff loudly.

The new photos were taken in the Blue Drawing Room at Buckingham Palace

Coronation: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

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User17439876 · 30/04/2023 09:01

People do strange things, who would have thought people would clap the NHS, but many did, it will probably be similar people doing this

LakieLady · 30/04/2023 09:01

Italiancitizenship · 30/04/2023 07:16

The order of service will read: "All who so desire, in the Abbey, and elsewhere, say together: I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

All who so desire - that will be nobody then. I think the royal family are deluded.

I think my MIL might. She loves the royals, and is delighted that she's going to see a second coronation.

Parisj · 30/04/2023 09:01

I am really trying to rise above and keep quiet as I realise there is a slim majority of support for the monarchy, but finding myself wanting to formally register my fuck this shit feeling somewhere. Maybe here is a better option than writing to Charlie 😂

3dogsandarabbit · 30/04/2023 09:01

OneinEight - No one is saying you should do anything. If you want to do it that's fine if you don't want to that's also fine.

ThisSingleMama · 30/04/2023 09:02

The people on the mall will all do it

Most of us at home won't

There's no backlash....out in the real world outside MN nobody has mentioned it!

TheGreatATuin · 30/04/2023 09:02

00100001 · 30/04/2023 08:19

Oh, you've seen her will have you? You know what he inherited?

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We all know it was millions more than her good tea set and a couple of family photo albums, like many of her subjects would have had left their families after care home fees.

According to the Guardian's recent expose, he's worth well over a billion and there's a been a massive blurring of lines over what's public and what's private. This isn't a family that pays their taxes.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 30/04/2023 09:03

I agree with PP that that’s not an Oxford comma. This one has two functions: highlighting a natural pause and making “according to law” apply just to the heirs and successors and not to Chuckie III.

Comma aside, swearing allegiance can fuck off.

Boughtitdownthemarket · 30/04/2023 09:03

Not British but curious to know if there is any official mechanism which could remove the power from the monarchy and make them private citizens. Is it possible to have a referendum like we do in Ireland when a change is being made to the constitution? Surely British people who don't want him, don't have to just put up with it? It seems hugely unfair to me.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2023 09:09

On hearing this I really wondered whether it was the first day of April rather than the last

Hilarious, and such a shame I no longer have the foam brick someone gave me for chucking at the screen. Then again, he's waited so long for the job and is likely to have such a relatively short term to enjoy it that I guess he has to garner whatever plaudits he can in the time

Beanfield2023 · 30/04/2023 09:10

The only allegiance I swear to is my own family. The rest can do one .

Buffypaws · 30/04/2023 09:10

YukoandHiro · 30/04/2023 06:47

@Xenia you're right, that's no place for an Oxford comma (which used correctly I'm a big fan of)

Agree. I like an OC. Went in thinking it’d be fine but seemed wholly unnecessary.

And yes this is a bizarre suggestion which is just going to wind people up.

carriedout · 30/04/2023 09:10

I do not see the process by which the UK moves from constitutional monarchy to full democracy, but also surely the current system won't persist in perpetuity.

rattymol · 30/04/2023 09:14

I don't envy the BBC staff member whose job it will be to find people happy to be filmed saying this so it can be broadcast to the nation.
I thought Charles was supposed to be modernising the royal family? Seems to be doing the opposite in reality,

WickedSerious · 30/04/2023 09:14

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 30/04/2023 07:23

I’m washing my hair that day.

I'm rearranging my fridge magnets.

Sirius3030 · 30/04/2023 09:14

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 30/04/2023 07:23

I’m washing my hair that day.

Unfortunately I am cleaning out the hamster’s cage that day.

rattymol · 30/04/2023 09:15

@Boughtitdownthemarket none. We are not supposed to question. Just accept them as there for ever.

Cooknook · 30/04/2023 09:15

rattymol · 30/04/2023 09:14

I don't envy the BBC staff member whose job it will be to find people happy to be filmed saying this so it can be broadcast to the nation.
I thought Charles was supposed to be modernising the royal family? Seems to be doing the opposite in reality,

I doubt it'll be that hard, generally I wouldn't expect people who weren't bothered about the coronation or Charles to travel to London and spend hours and hours waiting round for it.

skippy67 · 30/04/2023 09:15

TooMuchStuffArghhh · 30/04/2023 06:43

Fuck that, pile of shite.

Yup.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2023 09:16

... if you ask people who are ambivalent to pick a side, you have to be very confident they willpick the side you want
i.e. do not overplay your hand

Wisely put, carriedout ...

LadyMargaretDevereux · 30/04/2023 09:17

TooMuchStuffArghhh · 30/04/2023 06:43

Fuck that, pile of shite.

Absolutely.

QuizzlyBear · 30/04/2023 09:17

@Outgrabe ah, the Henry Cavill effect... 😊

carriedout · 30/04/2023 09:17

rattymol · 30/04/2023 09:14

I don't envy the BBC staff member whose job it will be to find people happy to be filmed saying this so it can be broadcast to the nation.
I thought Charles was supposed to be modernising the royal family? Seems to be doing the opposite in reality,

The BBC will be on best behaviour. However if I was from a less sycophantic media outlet I would be interested in finding the range of people and asking them what they thought/said at that point. Thus opening a can of worms.

They have given Republic a precise moment to aim for anyway.

Sirius3030 · 30/04/2023 09:19

carriedout · 30/04/2023 09:10

I do not see the process by which the UK moves from constitutional monarchy to full democracy, but also surely the current system won't persist in perpetuity.

There is an official mechanism, used very successfully in 1649. There was a King Charles involved in that too.

vera99 · 30/04/2023 09:27

They should have done a crowdfunded appeal for the whole bloody lot that would have sorted out the sponging fawners from the real diehards

Chaz and his mistress cum wife Camilla need your help to pay for an extravagant do and impose on business, so we need YOU to cough up. So dig deep and get pledging or else nothing will happen, and he'll still be King. Target £100 million.

Total as of today .... £27,345.23

Latest donation Gracie from Scunthorpe.....

Dear Charles I'm on a pension, waiting for a hip transplant and haven't been able to put the heating on much this winter and live off cup a soups. So I can only afford £5 I hope this helps you get your coronation which I will watch on telly. It's a shame about Lady Diana she would have been lovely and I do so miss your mum. All the best Gracie x

rattymol · 30/04/2023 09:27

@Cooknook I meant people not at the Mall.