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To be so bloody happy to have another BOY on the way

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blueberry23 · 26/04/2023 19:41

Lighthearted thread

But I see so many threads with gender disappointment towards having a boy

My reasons for being over the moon for DS#2 in my tummy....,,

I will remain queen of my house (bar the dogs!)
Boys adore their mummies
Less emotions to manage
Less pink and glitter hopefully 🤣
Brothers
Dirty knees and climbing trees and rough and tumble

I'm just here for it all

What are your reasons if you love being a boy mum like me?

OP posts:
Outliers · 28/04/2023 00:43

Until they grow up and abandon the home.

MissFancyDay · 28/04/2023 02:01

This thread is sad. So many gender stereotypes still exist. It's sad for both girls and boys.

I'm so glad that my son grew up with an older sister who was often up a tree or climbing on rocks and isn't always causing drama.

There's nothing wrong with being excited for a boy though, they're great.

Hardbackwriter · 28/04/2023 06:35

PrettyMaybug · 27/04/2023 10:49

@blueberry23

What a strange thread. I have to agree with quite a few posters on here, there are some ridiculous stereotypes and assumptions on here. Like only boys can get dirty and play outside, boys have fewer emotions, and boys are much closer to their mums than girls!!! (All absolute bollox.)

As a previous poster said, just wait until your son is married. Wait until you're a mother-in-law. There's a strong chance that you'll find that your precious son who is 'so close to his mum' suddenly becomes closer to his wife's mum, and your grandchildren will be a bit closer to his wife's mum as well - and his wife's dad.. Most of the time (not always but most of the time,) the grandchildren are closer to the maternal grandparents... (than the paternal ones.) And your son and his wife will spend more time with HER parents than they will with you. Seen it happen soooo many times.

All this absolute hogwash about 'girls must wear pink,' 'girls can't get dirty,' and 'girls are fluffy and emotional,' is so harmful and stereotypical and ridiculous. It's harmful because it projects an image to girls that there are limits to what they are allowed to do.

I was fuming the other week when I saw boys (blue, and black) t-shirts in a supermarket, with 'be bold, be brave' on them, and other boys t-shirts with pictures of rockets, and planets. Whilst the girls (pink!) t-shirts had 'BE KIND' and 'BE SWEET' emblazoned across them, with pictures of fucking fluffy bunnies and unicorns.

My daughter (late 20s now,) has always absolutely loved video gaming and science/ space/ astronomy etc. And she used to love exploring the woods with her friends (male AND female,) and skateboarding, and climbing trees. My lovely niece (early 20s,) absolutely loves gardening and flowers and nature and hedgehogs and birds, and she loves to play golf too! So neither one fits the silly girly fluffy pink shite image.

There is a very strong sense of 'methinks the lady doth protest too much' on here... Although I'm sure some people are perfectly happy to have boys, when there is gender disappointment, (on these forums and similar ones,) it is almost always when it's a boy.

I don't think I've ever known anybody in real life, who has had a girl, and been disappointed. I know a few people with multiple girls. A few have 3 or 4. Not ONE wishes they had a son. I also know a few people with multiple boys - (between 2 and 5 boys,) and every one of them cried and was very low and depressed for a number of months, when they had 1 or 2 boys already, and they had yet ANOTHER boy.

I don't give a shiny shite if people LOVE having boys/sons, but to make a thread about it is very odd. It's like the 'I just LOVE being single' threads. Seems like they are trying to convince themselves - and everyone else, that they are soooooo happy with their lot! The fact they come to a major chat forum to express how amazingly happy they are to be single (or have only sons and no daughters,) tells a different tale ... As I said 'methinks the lady doth protest too much............. Wink

This is such a weird post. You got so close to the idea that we shouldn't stereotype or hold up that one sex is 'better'... then you just thought 'nah, fuck it, I'll just slag off boys and their mothers instead'.

Mothership4two · 28/04/2023 06:38

I adore my boys because they are them. I will never know what it is like to have a DD but from talking to friends and family over the years, my boys seem to be generally less complicated than girls, though less organised and more boisterous. Obviously there will be exceptions.

My NDN has 5 girls. She has told me that the irritating "oh another girl not a boy?!" started at DD2 and got steadily worse. She says she was very happy with each one and never disappointed

strawberryfluff · 28/04/2023 06:38

I have filled my sick bowl twice over reading this then I think you should probably see your GP

5128gap · 28/04/2023 06:41

fitzwilliamdarcy · 27/04/2023 22:27

I still can’t get over “queen of my house” tbh. Makes it sound like having a girl turns everything into Game of Thrones. What do the boy infants do, worship you on your throne?

Just no.

It’s always boy mums using the twee words like “mummies” and “tummy” as well. Makes me want to heave.

I don't get that either..
Surely you're still Queen of your house if you have a daughter, because she will be the ikkle Princess?
(Sorry.😂)

Poopoolittlekitten · 28/04/2023 06:43

‘I will remain queen of my house (bar the dogs!)
Boys adore their mummies
Less emotions to manage
Less pink and glitter hopefully 🤣
Brothers
Dirty knees and climbing trees and rough and tumble ‘

one of each here. The girl is the rough and tumble footballer, who’s always filthy from sports, tree climbing and getting mucky.
The boy is the emotional one who prefers ‘clean’ sports like swimming.
Neither like pink, or glitter.
Both are complicated

Your list is insulting to both girls and your son/s but if you want to raise them in stereotypes, and judge girls as emotional and loving glitter - you go for it

strawberryfluff · 28/04/2023 06:45

I don't really get why you'd want to be queen of your own house anyway. Sounds very power trippy

Poopoolittlekitten · 28/04/2023 06:46

‘my boys seem to be generally less complicated than girls,’

Christ, DS is 13 and I can tell you now his friends are definitely not ‘less complicated’ - they’re a bundle of emotion, hormones, rage, stupid decision making, aggression, bravado, Andrew Tate worshipping, drug taking, drinking idiots a lot of them.

Mothership4two · 28/04/2023 06:49

Poopoolittlekitten · 28/04/2023 06:46

‘my boys seem to be generally less complicated than girls,’

Christ, DS is 13 and I can tell you now his friends are definitely not ‘less complicated’ - they’re a bundle of emotion, hormones, rage, stupid decision making, aggression, bravado, Andrew Tate worshipping, drug taking, drinking idiots a lot of them.

from talking to friends and family over the years, my boys seem to be generally less complicated than girls, though less organised and more boisterous. Obviously there will be exceptions.

PARunnerGirl · 28/04/2023 06:57

@blueberry23 You are responsible for raising two men. How do you want them to think about women in the future, which will define how they treat them? If you don’t work to change how you view women, they will very likely to believe the below which will not help them form healthy relationships with women.

Women are weaker than me.
Women are overly emotional.
Women’s interests are meaningless and vapid.
Women don’t take part in tough, physical sports or endeavours.

phoenixrosehere · 28/04/2023 07:08

MissFancyDay · 28/04/2023 02:01

This thread is sad. So many gender stereotypes still exist. It's sad for both girls and boys.

I'm so glad that my son grew up with an older sister who was often up a tree or climbing on rocks and isn't always causing drama.

There's nothing wrong with being excited for a boy though, they're great.

Agree.

Glad OP is happy and wish her a happy, healthy pregnancy and baby, but her reasoning and the assumption of what her son is going to be like even though he isn’t here yet is cringe.

Less emotional? Dirty knees and climbing trees?

My youngest (5) gets tearful when you tell him no so tears are almost daily and will change his clothes if they are dirty. He will change his clothes if he doesn’t like them and goes outside with a coat and hat whatever the season. His older brother will go outside in our garden in his boxers if you don’t stop him and start climbing on top of things. Saying that, he will come in and wash his hands if they get dirty. Can’t really assume anything other than they’ll have their own personalities and you’ll learn to understand them.

Mothership4two · 28/04/2023 07:15

My 2 are 19 and 23 now and they are lovely. Pretty level headed. Treat girlfriends with respect. Sociable. They are quite open with me about their lives. And they can't stand Andrew Tate. I still get hugs. I had a birthday recently and they spoiled me rotten. They have had their ups and downs. One had a late diagnosis for ADHD and the other asked for counselling after his teenage friend died suddenly. So not Perfect Peters. But I love them, am proud of them, wouldn't want them any other way and know that they love me and DH.

I'm sure if they had been girls I would feel exactly the same.

MagpieSong · 28/04/2023 07:31

Mothership4two · 28/04/2023 06:49

from talking to friends and family over the years, my boys seem to be generally less complicated than girls, though less organised and more boisterous. Obviously there will be exceptions.

I don’t think it’s exceptions so much as just incorrect. I’m sure some boys are uncomplicated, just as some girls are. It’s weird that so many think the majority of boys are simple and yet so many men are difficult/complicated. At the minor end, many men (as proven in studies) don’t take responsibility, struggle to bond with babies and/or don’t help around the house. At the major end, more men murder, more men murder partners or sometimes partners and children or take part in domestic violence and more men are involved in sexual crimes. It would be interesting to think about when this view changes from simple boys to complex men. Not that I’m saying everyone’s sons will grow to do this, but just it’s fascinating to think that if the majority of boys are easy to bring up, then when do the majority become complex (and often difficult) adults/partners/people?

There are hormonal differences that impact emotion that are biologically part of being that sex eg. girls having periods, boys voices dropping (there are exceptions to those too). However, I can’t agree with the stereotypes of simple or less bitchyness in the playground etc. It’s not been my ds’s experience, nor his classmates.

Peppadog · 28/04/2023 08:02

I think the 'boys are less complex' thing is often misconstrued. In my experience (and many others clearly) boys are socially less complex, especially when it comes to friendships which is why you tend to see less friendship dramas at school. Emotionally they are not less complex, they express emotions in different ways.
There are evolutionary reasons for differences. I've seen a brilliant documentary on this by an anthropologist who explains in great depth why we see the differences that we see, utterly fascinating, but of course it goes against the accepted narrative on Mumsnet. You can't have a reasonable debate on here about these things unfortunately as you get piled on and your words picked apart....is it any surprise girls are called 'bitchy' just look at this thread, it's horrific.

Overthinkingnotdrinking · 28/04/2023 08:07

Congratulations OP. I love having boys, it’s so fun. Hate the way people act like I’ve drawn the short straw having three of them. If I was younger I’d get pregnant again and hope for another.

MagpieSong · 28/04/2023 08:51

Peppadog · 28/04/2023 08:02

I think the 'boys are less complex' thing is often misconstrued. In my experience (and many others clearly) boys are socially less complex, especially when it comes to friendships which is why you tend to see less friendship dramas at school. Emotionally they are not less complex, they express emotions in different ways.
There are evolutionary reasons for differences. I've seen a brilliant documentary on this by an anthropologist who explains in great depth why we see the differences that we see, utterly fascinating, but of course it goes against the accepted narrative on Mumsnet. You can't have a reasonable debate on here about these things unfortunately as you get piled on and your words picked apart....is it any surprise girls are called 'bitchy' just look at this thread, it's horrific.

Id love to know about the documentary, these things are fascinating! The social side I think is varied and is always going to be affected by what’s happening in society etc at the time, but I can see how they may be viewed as less complex socially as a majority. We haven’t had less friendship dramas at school at yet, but ds is not the sort of boy to just join in with a sport and bond that way, which I’ve witnessed some other boys doing. The problems at school with boy friendships have been mainly a boy disallowing certain other boys to play if they don’t follow his rules, play his games etc. Equally, covid probably added to that as social skills etc. were affected across the board. My issue is more the blanket idea of boys being less complex across the board, rather than acknowledging there are biological differences. I definitely agree with you it can be easily misconstrued.

Hardbackwriter · 28/04/2023 09:17

So many of these 'boys are like that, girls are like that' ideas are very clearly cultural not biological, as can be seen by the fact that they're not historically or culturally universal. If you'd told Shakespeare and his contemporaries that males were less emotionally complex than females they'd have laughed at you (as they would if you'd told them that men are more sexually driven than women, even though again we now see that as simple biological fact). People love the idea that it's all evolutionary but that just doesn't fit the facts.

willWillSmithsmith · 28/04/2023 09:52

Dithyramb · 27/04/2023 23:04

That’s one of the most genuinely tragic things I’ve ever read on here.

That is not genuinely tragic. It may not be your thing but tragic it isn’t. My sons are six footers plus and I look tiny next to them and I like it, so shoot me too😁

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 28/04/2023 09:58

willWillSmithsmith · 28/04/2023 09:52

That is not genuinely tragic. It may not be your thing but tragic it isn’t. My sons are six footers plus and I look tiny next to them and I like it, so shoot me too😁

Yeah, that really is tragic.

Peppadog · 28/04/2023 10:02

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 28/04/2023 09:58

Yeah, that really is tragic.

Oh go away, this thread was starting to get more interesting and becoming more of a debate, noone needs your relentless negativity.

Scalottia · 28/04/2023 10:08

Ah, the self-appointed thread police. @Peppadog it's called having different opinions.

I agree, it's tragic @ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 28/04/2023 10:15

Peppadog · 28/04/2023 10:02

Oh go away, this thread was starting to get more interesting and becoming more of a debate, noone needs your relentless negativity.

There's nothing interesting about your weird fetish for looking tiny. It's just very sad.

phoenixrosehere · 28/04/2023 10:22

Peppadog · 28/04/2023 08:02

I think the 'boys are less complex' thing is often misconstrued. In my experience (and many others clearly) boys are socially less complex, especially when it comes to friendships which is why you tend to see less friendship dramas at school. Emotionally they are not less complex, they express emotions in different ways.
There are evolutionary reasons for differences. I've seen a brilliant documentary on this by an anthropologist who explains in great depth why we see the differences that we see, utterly fascinating, but of course it goes against the accepted narrative on Mumsnet. You can't have a reasonable debate on here about these things unfortunately as you get piled on and your words picked apart....is it any surprise girls are called 'bitchy' just look at this thread, it's horrific.

You can't have a reasonable debate on here about these things unfortunately as you get piled on and your words picked apart....is it any surprise girls are called 'bitchy' just look at this thread, it's horrific.

Yet, conversations like these happen between men. They pick apart what other men say and will call each other “soft”, “pu*”, etc.. (usually a derogatory female name) but when women do it its “bitchy” even when there is no name-calling amongst women.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 28/04/2023 10:26

Genuinely interested to know what 'special treatment' some posters get by being the only person in the house with a vagina.