to be alarmed that more and more places are allowing dogs?

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Just went to Wilko recently who had a sign up saying all dogs welcome. Went to a bistro and they allowed dogs too. Had lunch listening to small yappy dogs.

Since when did it become acceptable to allow dogs into shops and food places?

Presumably dog owners bring in enough money to make it worth it. I don’t really like it (and I do like dogs generally), but then loads of people object to the fact that people like me who have small children in tow are allowed into shops and cafes and restaurants - and clearly people like me spend enough money from the venue’s POV as we continue to be welcome too

YANBU. I'm sick of seeing stinking hairy mutts when I'm trying to eat a meal or shop. I'm allergic to dogs and don't expect to see them in clothes shops or inner precinct restaurants but fuck me, I guess. I shouldn't have to be on high alert doing normal everyday things without worrying about suddenly getting allergic or stepping on paws. Leave the dogs at home. Not everyone loves them as much as you do. A tiny chihuahua under a table isn't going to bother some people. How about when it's an XL bully off the lead sniffing at your child? I was having a meal in a beer garden last week with my child when an alsatian bounded over out of nowhere and had its head in her crotch. And of course the owner says "It's fine, she won't hurt her". No it's not fucking fine. Get your dog off my child.

There has also been a 50% rise in dog ownership since Covid. It’s noticeable. I don’t think people who are uncomfortable about it or just commenting should be slapped down as being dog haters . This place lol

Oh come on, people aren’t objecting to the friendliness of the bark, you know that! It’s a horrible noise to listen to, just like a wailing child is. Parents are expected to take children making unacceptable noise out to calm down.

This ( dogs everywhere) has an impact on the shared environment is what I meant .

Re the dog eating dropped chocolate, well dogs are opportunistic eaters and I think the dog owner was OTT, I wouldn’t have complained had it been my dog. However, my dc were not allowed to walk around eating.
I do think that some, say 50%, of eateries should be dog free so people have the choice to avoid dogs as is their prerogative.

Yes I know some Wilko's have closed. Ours is still open for now it's always busy being in the town centre. But if the whole chain is struggling then like the other chain stores in our town will go into liquidation. Some never reopened after lockdown.

I don't understand these threads to be honest.

If you/your DC/whoever doesn't like/is allergic to/afraid of dogs, don't go to the dog friendly bistro/cafe/shop.

Same as people who do have/like to mix with dogs choose to go to dog friendly places.

I have a severe allergy to dogs. They seem to sense it and run at me. I can come up in hives even if they touch me through clothing, and they bring on asthma attacks. Please, please if you have a dog DO NOT let it touch anyone that you do not know. And DO NOT assume that someone is scared of dogs because they are avoiding them and then try to pacify the person. I am not afraid of your dog, I am afraid of being ill and possibly ending up in hospital as I have done on several occasions. Is it really too much to ask to be able to wander through John Lewis without encountering an assault course of dogs?!!

We have a local dog friendly cafe on the beach. But it's popular with dog walker's so they would lose customers if dog's weren't welcome. All dogs get a free sausage and they have dog ice-cream on sale. It's always busy and the majority have dog's with them. I've been in a few times with my kids they aren't dog lovers but never had a problem with dogs barking in there.

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I for one think it's wonderful. I'd much rather have dogs milling around than all the screaming, uncontrolled children anyway. Bring on the cat friendly signs. 😺

So presumably you exclusively take your child to non-dog friendly places then and you check if somewhere is dog friendly?

It never ceases to amaze me how unsympathetic and unkind people are about children with serious illnesses when dogs are involved. Straight off this is the reply to someone saying their child has complex needs and a deathly allergy to dogs.

Can’t you imagine how stressful life is to have your child at risk of a deadly allergy every time you try to leave the house and do something normal, and manage to dredge up a bit of sympathy?

This made me laugh. I'm imagining dogs swanking around in designer sunglasses and diamond encrusted collars.

It’s good for solo people who wouldn’t be able to go on holidays or days out without a dog friendly place.

Having said that I’m not sure my dog wants to go to wilko.

Dogs ARE quick.
They are opportunists when it comes to food.
She should have trained her dog to “Leave!”
Or else hooked it out of her dog’s mouth.

EXPECTING you to pay the vet bill?

She should have vet insurance for stuff like this.

My dog are a grape.
£280 !

My fault.

It’s not, but it’s also not true to say it’s unacceptable from any other animal. What other animal is expected to be leashed? Where are cats trained not to put their paws on people?!

Don't ever go to Europe any of you who don't like dogs everywhere. They've always had dogs in restaurants, shops etc in Europe without all this endless drama - even very high end restaurants in France, Germany, Italy etc will allow dogs in. Rather like having a culture of being much more tolerant of children out with their parents eating meals - and consequently the children are used to being in restaurants and much better behaved as a result than here - they are pretty laid back about dogs too and without all this endless (every bloody day on MN) drama.

@LaylaLjungberg

Mine said it's Harrods or nothing, although could probably be persuaded by Harvey Nicks foodhall

Has a huge domestic cat/rabbit ever jumped up on a human while they were out walking/running? It's unacceptable to allow huge dogs to jump up on people then some dog walkers will say they are just being friendly and complain if you tell them to leash them. I've never had a cow , cat , badger , fox, rabbit ever jump up on me while I've been walking it's always dogs!!!

Same, except cats should be on a lead and muzzled at all times because of my allergies and one stood near me once and yowled which scared my shark.

Unlike grapes/raisins etc, where even one can cause an extremely bad reaction so is an emergency, with chocolate there is a formula based on dog weight and coco content on how much an individual dog can digestive with significant issue. Assuming it was a small part of a milk chocolate bar then the coco content would be low and likely not enough to cause issue.

Yeah, in all my travels across Europe I don't think I've noticed this except in the outside seating area of bars and cafes.

I suppose it depends if its a 'good boy' or not.

A few weeks ago me and DH went for a quick drink in a local pub, we didn't have a table booked so plonked down on a sofa by the fire. Someone came in with 2 big dogs (lab & alsation) and asked to sit next to us and the dogs just lay down and where perfectly sweet. No issues.

A few years back though I remember going to a bistro pub in the city and it was like doggy bloody daycare with dogs growling/fighting, dogs jumping up at your table to steal food, wandering round alone, bowls of water getting spilled everywhere. It seems from what I could tell the 'worst' dog (completely untrained) was possibly the owners dog and had free fun of the place but half the other customers dogs didnt seem much better. I guess they saw the owner and took his lead to not having to control their dogs at all. We left and made a note never to go back.

My husband use to work in events and there was a pub that booked him a few times, they had this big old rottweiler type dog who just milled around the pub. he was totally docile and would come up to see if you wanted to pet him and if not just take himself off to find a spot for a nap. Once again no issue.