To think that fat people get unfairly bullied?

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There are those who think that the NHS should not fund essential medical treatment.

It is OK to publically humilate children by weighing them in front of their class mates.

There is a total lack of decent clothes for fat adults and children. Believe that its particularly hard to find nice clothes for overweight children. Surely larger people deserve nice clothes?

And before you ask. I am 5 ft 6in and weight 9 st. I am lucky in that I don't put on weight easy. My slim figure is down to genetics and nothing to do with life choices.

We should accept everyone for who they are and not badger people into starving themselves make them miserable. The press seems to worthship the bodies of those who are so skinny that they are unhealthy. Its abnormal to be size 0.

People with fuller figures should be proud of their bodies and pressurised into attempting to be a totally unrealisic weight.

but fat around your major organs is a health issue

and also being overweight is an increasing health issue as you age

but of course it is yoiur life and choice and if you are happy that is no problem

Which is why i eat as healthily as i can to minimise that.
My weight gain is more to do with my BC than anything else, and unfortunately until i'm prepared to come off it permenantly its something i'll have to combat.

what is BC im sorry i dont know

I was very moved by expat's posts, which are so non-judgmental but sad. I too have concerns about a relative, though not quite as grave. But I am desperate not to bully somebody or make them unhappy; it's just that I know it's affecting their health.

Exercise has been mentioned in many posts.

Healthy diet has been mentioned.

What hasn't been mentioned yet is portion size. It's really hard to get through to somebody that you can still be making yourself fat, despite eating healthy home-cooked food and taking exercise: because you eat too much.

It stands to reason that if you have three chops where everybody around you are having one each, you will put on more weight than them. Six spuds instead of two are bound to make a difference. And if you've had your lunch and then turn up to a house where lunch is still going on and you sit down and have another lunch (however healthy), then that is going to make a difference.

In the case of my relative, this seems a very sensitive subject. It seems tied up to some sort of anxiety, the fear that something dreadful is going to happen if he doesn't feel full. Don't know why, he's never to my knowledge suffered deprivation or had food withheld for punishment as a child; he just seems to have been born with this fear. If you suggest he eat less, he either gets very cross or changes the subject.

Probably you'd need some sort of anxiety treatment for this, but it's impossible to suggest it without him feeling bullied, and he never seems to hit on the idea himself, that this might be where the root of the problem lies. So I suppose I have to leave sleeping dogs lie- but it is hard when you worry about somebody.

1000 calories a day isn't much at all is it? I don't think that anyone on 1000 cals a day would ever be obese

1000 calories is low intake

i agree about the portion size

i see people eat loads and they still say they arent

and things like mashed potaato you eat far more than an individual potato

protion control is a big key

and if you eat something like quiche or pizza you want about an eightth of one not the whole thing

I think Kaishay was responding to Branflakes81 comment 'but to be morbidly obese GENERALLY SPEAKING requires an intake of several thousand calories a day and no exercise.'

oh i see

well 1000 calories i would guess is too little for anyone to sustain healthily

but i am not a real calorie counting expert

I was very impressed that my dd (9) class were taught more about portion sizes during a lesson on healthy eating rather than good food bad food. Definately a much better way to educate the next generation.

it is remarkably easy to accidnetally serve too much

and to be tempted to just have a few cheese abd biscuits or another slice

two glasses of organge juice etc

the dinners they serve at college are huge

i occasionally have one but i dont very often because once it is on your plate i am one of those who eats everything

I've started putting the dinner on the table and getting the kids to serve themselves, quite impressed that they rarely seem to take more than they need. We've explained its better to take a small amount and go back for more if they're still hungry rather than ploughing through a huge plate and leaving the table fit to burst.

Average adult woman should be eating around 2,000 calories a day to maintain her weight. So 1,000 calories is Not Enough. And probably Not Enough even if you are on a diet, as you will be hungry and more likely to give up, I should imagine.

bc = birth control/contraceptive pill.

and i meant the several thousand calorie comment, not 1000

1000 calories perversely could make it harder for someone to stick to a new eating regime because it's too low. You need a sustainable new diet without any junk food and three healthy balanced regularly meals and ideally not much snacking and perhaps only drink water.

I agree about portion size. I would rather put less on a plate and let people have seconds if they wish. Funnily enough, the dc rarely do

kaishay- the bc pill does cause some people to put on weight. But not the size 24 extent. Have you looked at hidden fats in your diet? You could change to the coil instead maybe?

Sorry, kaishay just realised that sounds a bit abrupt. I actually don't believe most fat people are unhappy/ desperately ill. I think its another excuse to look down on people actually. I enbrace a world where we have all different shapes and sizes.
My uncle[clinically obese] says you can't trust skinny people

i know its not all BCP mrsruffalo.. but when i went on it i was a size 16 and other than the 2 years i was TTC and pregnant (and lost weight) i've been on it permenantly for 7 years and my weight has slowly crept up bit by bit.

Its not been sudden weight gain, its literally been a constant steady gain, but seems to have levelled out at the size i am now, it's not gone up again and i'm in my pre-pregnancy clothes still.

that is the thing i think weight does creep up

it is very hard to reverse

I find that I can eat whatever I like and the weight stays the same - for a while. Then all of a sudden it will have gone up by 2-3 pounds, and I just cannot shift it back off again. So it goes on...

Does any one remember feminist Andrea Dworkin, who was obese and proud of it? She died of it before she was 60. She had a sad history of sexual abuse which I think made her hate her own body.

my weight has crept up for years since i met dh, married and had kids. i was a size 16 when we met. went upto a size 24 last year. am now down to a 20. it has been a gradual change, and i did go down to 12stone and a size 16 after i had dd2, but i dont think i was well and def wasnt eating properly. i know i gained mopre weight when dh was in hospital as food was my crutch. but now things are all 'jolly nice' again i can concentrate on me and getting the weight off.