To think that fat people get unfairly bullied?

[Reallytired]

There are those who think that the NHS should not fund essential medical treatment.

It is OK to publically humilate children by weighing them in front of their class mates.

There is a total lack of decent clothes for fat adults and children. Believe that its particularly hard to find nice clothes for overweight children. Surely larger people deserve nice clothes?

And before you ask. I am 5 ft 6in and weight 9 st. I am lucky in that I don't put on weight easy. My slim figure is down to genetics and nothing to do with life choices.

We should accept everyone for who they are and not badger people into starving themselves make them miserable. The press seems to worthship the bodies of those who are so skinny that they are unhealthy. Its abnormal to be size 0.

People with fuller figures should be proud of their bodies and pressurised into attempting to be a totally unrealisic weight.

I like walking, but I like swimming more - I'd go all the time if I could afford it. But I can't. Especially when you have to factor in travlleing/poarki9ng costs, as not everyone id fortunate enough to live within walking distance of a pool etc. If I drive in or get the bus, I add £3.50 onto the cost

do fat people get bullied?

i was fat and i never did

And I don;t eat processed food - we eat healthy home cooked meals

the fatter you are the harder it is to do something about it im sure

it seems so impossible so i do sympathise with people a lot

im not at all sure the programmes about fat peopke are a good thing as it does seem to be making it seem freakish these reality programmes

and some of the presenters like that mckeith woman are just eccentric

Also, so much is made of fast weightoll refgimes, like lighter life etc. But losing weight is a long term process - so when people do switch to a better way of eating, they don;t get the results they think they are going to get, so they lose motivation. They forget that 1lb a week is good and that it is sustainable - and that losing 7ls a week is not particularlky haelthy

yes i agree

i took a year to lose 4.5 stone

it is difficult when it seems slow especially the beginning you have to make targets

I agree with you to a certain extent but FOR ME I have to say that I love the fact that shops with clothes that I like stop at 16. I am overweight at a size 16 if I were fit and healthy I would be a size 12/14 and 2-2.5 stone lighter than I am. The only thing that stops me sitting on my arse eating chocolate all day and having chips for my dinner every night is the thought that there are things I won't be able to do/buy if I slip over into a size 18.

There is a difficulty for people who are already the other side of that and it is really hard to loose weight and re-educate your system to liking/wanting/tolerating healthier food options.

But I do think that it is acceptable for there to be a guide of how large a person should get for their own health.

As for weighing kids in school, it can and should be done in private in a non humiliating way. But I see nothing wrong with the school nurse weighing a child and measuring its height and passing that information back to the parents. Some parents don't realise that a 4 year old of average height shouldn't be 5-6 stone. The younger the child the easier it is to help educate them about food and exercise.

As for the NHS - my uncle is an anethetist (sp?) and agreed to do the general anesthetic on a very over weight lady who was having a gastric bypass, she had already lost 4 stone to fit into the criteria of being fit enough for surgery. She died. It was totally down to her size and my uncle feels awful that he agreed to do it when he could have easily said that she should wait another 6 months and loose another few stone.

Very complicated issue but I don't think that saying nothing about peoples weight is the right thing, especially when it comes to being beyond just overweight. (I would also add that if a person has problems at the other end of the spectrum of being underweight that these issues should also be taken seriously)

ok, not read whole thread but I think that underweight people get more stick that the overweight people do. It is acceptable to slate someone for being too thin or tell someone (as I once was) that they are too thin and should eat more. I would never dream of telling someone who is overweight that they are fat and should eat less, British children are becoming obese because of poor diet and lack of exercise, something does need to be done about it, and the responsibility ultimately falls onto the individual.

and also people shouldn't be led to believe that you get to a certain age and you cant lose weight i have seen that bandied about..ok it may be harder in midd life but it is still possible

there is no magic bullet tho

no magic bullets for anything really depression is the same

it's all work

and it is responsible to try and give children the best chance of being neither fat nor excessively thin

Thin people get bullied too! Infact it seems (to me) that people think it's ok to make remarks about your weight if you're too thin and say things they'd never dream of saying to an overweight person.
The last time I went for a massage (a present from a kind friend) the therapist took it upon herself to lecture me about anorexia - despite my explaining to her that I was thin due to illness and felt very self-concious about it. Not a relaxing experience!

Weighing kids in school is not good. It bashjes thier already low self esteem. Far better to invest the time in running about outside and learning about makeing the right food choices

I'd be FUMING if someone weighed my kids at schoiol in front of the class, and they are both thre "right" weight for thier height

Also, getting kids learning to cook in schools. Nothing fancy, but how to make tasty and cheap meals that aren;'t full of shit

i dont know anything about what happens ion schools now as i dont have any school age kids so can't really say

Sheik, my thought is that you are not the Mum that would benefit from being told the information about your children as you are already thoughtful about the subject.. there are a great number of families out there who have NO idea that littly billy is actually really overweight already aged 5 or 6. I don't think that any weighing should be done in public (even mine!) but I do think that for some families the information could be a wake up call?

it is an irony in that with all the popularity of tv cooks and hundreds and thousands of cookery books being published fewer people actually do cook

it astonishes me the amount stuff in supermarkets that is packaged up expensive meals

i dont know how people afford them

and when you look the amount of energy in them is absurd far more than in the home made equivalent and they dont even taste nice

YANBU though personally i used to get more criticism for my weight as a teenager/young adult (when i was a size 14 and felt constantly fat and unattractive) than i ever do now, despite being 3 sizes larger!

I agree Zippi, expensive and not great flavors or quality.

Delia has just bought out a new no nonsense cook book for those who get intimidated by the celebrity chefs.. heard her on the radio yesterday.

The sad thing is though is that it will probably make little didfference

I used to teach, we had a school nurse in and there was a 9 year old biy who was probably about 10 or 11 stone. The nurse had a chat with his mum and dad who put iot down to "puppy fat" and told her to keep her beak out.

It;'s a futile exercise. Far betyter to educate the children than make them fee even worse than they do about themselveds already

I guess you are right, If they haven't noticed then a letter from school isn't really going to do it..

I just think children need to be gioven the power to make the best desicion=s for themselves.

And the confidence to do it at home with a family who feel differently about things.

yes children do need that information and education

but they do also have to put up with whatever their parents offer them so parents are a big part of the picture

lots of parents are just too kind ...they feel that it is mean not to give certain kinds of foods

if it is hard to have the willpower as an adult who holds the purse strings it is much harder as a child to look after yuopurself

Snotbuster:
I couldn't agree more!
I'm small, size 6-8 eat normally, do not have an eating disorder yet for some reason calling me an anorexic who only eats lettuce is fine. If I were to call a large person an overeater who just ate pies I'd be jumped on.
It works both ways