To think that fat people get unfairly bullied?

[Reallytired]

There are those who think that the NHS should not fund essential medical treatment.

It is OK to publically humilate children by weighing them in front of their class mates.

There is a total lack of decent clothes for fat adults and children. Believe that its particularly hard to find nice clothes for overweight children. Surely larger people deserve nice clothes?

And before you ask. I am 5 ft 6in and weight 9 st. I am lucky in that I don't put on weight easy. My slim figure is down to genetics and nothing to do with life choices.

We should accept everyone for who they are and not badger people into starving themselves make them miserable. The press seems to worthship the bodies of those who are so skinny that they are unhealthy. Its abnormal to be size 0.

People with fuller figures should be proud of their bodies and pressurised into attempting to be a totally unrealisic weight.

I agree Caribou. It?s all very well for Wilkie to say it?s ?easy? but what she means is ?it was easy for me?. That doesn?t mean that it will be easy for everyone else. It?s very difficult to keep it up when you get no reward (weight loss) for your effort.
I find Maths easy but I know a lot of other people don?t. I don?t run around saying FGS pull yourself together, it?s easy, it?s only the application of logic! I understand that we are all made differently and what someone finds easy, someone else will find difficult.

Also, some medication (steroids, some ADs) can cause major weight gain, as can other health problems like underactive thyroid. some people are fat because they eat too much and move too little, but that isn't true in every case.
OK there is another problem with the way the food industry is pushing unhealthy food to kids - and the mix of council greed in selling off school playing fields and the health-and-safety paranoia that makes it more and more difficult for kids to just run around and have fun (as opposed to doing something 'safe', supervised and expensive)... I am somewhere between a size 14 and an 18 depending on brand of clothes, and have been around this size all my adult life. I eat what I want and go morris dancing once a week and chase DS round the park most days. And anyone making comments on my weight gets one of a dozen rude replies, because I absolutely refuse to buy in to either the diet industry bullshit or the women-must-be-thin-and-take-up-less-space bullshit.

I do think it is wrong to be rude to fat people. It is unacceptable to make personal remarks generally. That doesn't mean that the obesity epidemic is something we should do nothing about.

undoubtedly it's rude and offensive and wrong to make remarks on people being fat

but you can lose weight for your own well being and you don't have to buy into any diet industry or commercial scene to do it

and if you have for eg mental health issues whoch m,ake it difficult then hopefully addressing those too is good

it is unfortunate that some drugs do make you gain weight..people who are in that sort any other position where weight gain is a side effect have my sympathy for sure

i have had that experience

I don't think that belittling obese people is going to do anything to make them lose weight.

I have never been overweight and I have no idea what its like to be over weight. However I do know what its like to human.

Over wieght people have feelings and there is a difference between education and preaching. There is no point in medical person telling a parent that their child is overweight without offering proper long term support. Telling someone that they are a bad parent is not constructive

In the same way over weight adults needs emotional support and their confidence built up. It is not realistic to expect someone to lose weight over night. It requires a radical change in lifestyle. Ultimately its up to an individual what health risks they want to take in life. Some people may prefer to die at 60 and enjoy food rather than live on celery to the age of 90.

It's not nice to be rude to people because of their weight no matter if they're heavy or very thin.

But I do think doing nothing about rising obesity levels isn't the way to go.

Expat - isn't that what I just said?

Well.... I have been both - fat and thin. I was a size 10 and am now a size 10 and I know which I prefer (please don't flame me!!!)

Being a size 20 - any comments DO NOT help - it is what is in your head that matters. You have to be in the right place at the right time to tackle the situation. Funnily enough, it was one off-the-wall comment that set me thinking but it was probably at the right time in my life. I was beginning to suffer a few health problems at size 20 (back ache - had acupuncture and physiotherapy etc.) and I had reached the age (over 50) where it suddenly became VERY important to think about where I was going with my health.

I am now a size 10 and it is the VERY best thing I ever ever did cos I am never going back (2 years at this weight).

No, it is not fair to be bullied as a big person (I felt invisible at times) but my only encouragement for anyone who is big and doesn't actually like being big is to go for it, because your life will change immeasurably for the better. My life has changed.

I mean I WAS a size 20 originally (too many glasses of wine tonight!)

Is there such a thing as being fairly bullied??

i agree helliebean getting older is a wake up call

and i think it is sad that people assume they can't lose weight because of hormones or metabolism once they get older

fairly bullied is like on mn when everyoine piles in lol

i didn't read it, elastic, and i'm about to log off just now because i've been getting flamed here all night for some reason.

reallytired- 'Its abnormal to be size 0.'

its not abnormal at all.sure some people do stupid things to get to that size but some people are naturally!it works both ways,as expat says.

Well... if I can do it, anyone can cos I am a pig! And believe me tonight I have already drunk the equivalent of 5 glasses of wine and a HUGE thai meal BUT I will counteract that next week with being carefu cos everyone needs a day or two off!

I lost over 4 stone at over age 50 so anything is possible.!

Hey Expat, great minds think alike! And often cross-post. No need to go off in a huff.

Nah, I've just found it dead chippy the night for some reason .

There there, Expat. Have you been on here all night when you could have been watching Mr Darcy on BBC4?

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I am a size 16/18 i go in where I should and I go out where I should, I could be a size 8 but I like to eat.

Bullies are the ones who are lacking, sad little people who have nothing better to do then be envious of people who are having a good time.
I get my clothes from most high street shops and I look good.

I have been smaller, I was a model in the 80s but I like how I look and I dress for my size.
Everyone is a person in their own right and the sooner EVERYONE works that out the better.

fuck me - if I read another "fat people are lazy" comment on MN I swear I'm going to gas myself.

Self righteous gits.

How would you feel having your worst fault stapled to your forehead all day, very day, for people to point at and laugh at?

However we tackle the growing problem of obesity I'm willing to bet that being stupid arses about it and repeating half-baked stereo-types like "fat people are lazy" is unlikely to be the approach that helps

There are almost as many reasons behind why people are overweight as there are "AIBU" threads on MN and going to weightwatchers with 3 or 4 fat women doesn't make you an expert.

and those of you who are thin and feel bullied by people for it are nuts if you think that people wouldn't dream of making to comments about food to fat people

You're allowed to feel bullied without trying to establish some kind of wierd bullying hierarchy - "we're more bullied than you are".

Can you tell I'm angry about some of the comments on this thread?

Exactly what I was thinking soupy

maybe it should have read pilloried

Mr Darcy is the dry boak.

And fat people are not lazy.

My sister is fat. Oh, she's really fat.

And the most unlazy person I've met.

But I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't worried about her. If our cousin Yolanda didn't stick in my mind all the time.

Because I adore my sister. I'm so proud of her and her accomplishments and who she is.

She's so beautiful I want her around for as long as possible.