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To think that fat people get unfairly bullied?

253 replies

Reallytired · 16/02/2008 14:18

There are those who think that the NHS should not fund essential medical treatment.

It is OK to publically humilate children by weighing them in front of their class mates.

There is a total lack of decent clothes for fat adults and children. Believe that its particularly hard to find nice clothes for overweight children. Surely larger people deserve nice clothes?

And before you ask. I am 5 ft 6in and weight 9 st. I am lucky in that I don't put on weight easy. My slim figure is down to genetics and nothing to do with life choices.

We should accept everyone for who they are and not badger people into starving themselves make them miserable. The press seems to worthship the bodies of those who are so skinny that they are unhealthy. Its abnormal to be size 0.

People with fuller figures should be proud of their bodies and pressurised into attempting to be a totally unrealisic weight.

OP posts:
luminarphrases · 16/02/2008 15:56

the thing that annoys me is the assumptions that are made about fat people (i've seen it happen far too often on mn), like
-fat people eat ready meals and junk, all of them
-fat people never do exercise
-fat people are also lazy
-fat people are stupid

when in my case it's not true, we eat healthily , i do a good amount of exercise, i am busy lots and i don't think i'm stupid. i just grew up in a farming family where you ate everything and had a massive plate

luminarphrases · 16/02/2008 15:57

oh, and i quite agree that the opposite is just as bad. i have seen my sil in tears after being accused of throwing up after a meal

Reallytired · 16/02/2008 15:59

Why is it not OK for everyone to have great clothes that fit?

I think that our children should be taught that what's inside is more important than looks. Also what is good looking is in the eye of the beholder.

OP posts:
Emprexia · 16/02/2008 16:03

I'm a size 22/24 and i'm ok with that, sure i wouldn't mind loosing a little bit around my middle thats left-over baby belly, but i don't want to be a skinny minny.

I had loads of grief off my midwife for being fluffy, and told i was 'high-risk' because of my weight - but actually i eat really healthily, my bp was fine, i had no GD and had a perfecly normal, uneventful pregnancy and birth.

People need to realise that just because some of us are larger doesn't mean we're unhealthy or fast food eating monsters.

MarmiteMe · 16/02/2008 16:11

Proves my point Kaishay.
Thanks.

ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 16:15

i'm sure that is true kaishay there are people like you who are happy with their weioght but there are also a lot of people who are not happy but also in denial

i am doing a full time course and have been since september

there is a woman on it who is voerweight and she has talked about it she wants to lose wieght and isn't happy but

she eats all day...and she eats bags of crips and skips and mini cheddars, chocolate etc and then says at lunch time that she is starving because she hasn't had anything for breakfast

she then picks for example sweet and soyur pork chops and chips and has pudding

she also drives her car from one side of the campus to the other

the college canteen does have much better choices and she could not eat between meals at college

so when she says aevery couple of days that she is someone who can't lose weight i don't say anything but i do think she is totally oblivious to the fact that she eats loads and does sod all exercise

MAMAZON · 16/02/2008 16:19

exactly.

im also a 24.
i may not be the fittest person in the world but when i go out with my girls friends i am first on the dance floor and i dance (properly, not just foot shuffle) for teh entire night. i don't sit down and i don't slow down.

my skinny friends will dance to one up beat song and then say "ooh i need to sit down"

I am fitter and probably healthier than some of my smaller counterparts.

i also had a midwife lecture during pregnancy. i had polyhydramnia and was told that it was probably caused by GD bought about by me being overweight.

actually i didn't have GD at all and ihad a much betetr BP and cholesterol level than my midwife (she told me after admitting she was wrong)

Emprexia · 16/02/2008 16:31

She probably is oblivious Zippibabes.

I recognise that my eating can get out of hand, but i did used to have an overeating disorder when i was younger that i have under control now. But also i don't exrcise all that much because of problems with my spine.. swimming is the only safe exercise i can do and i can't afford to go all the while.

My weight is slowly dropping, but i'll never be skinny, neither of my parents are and i have a very broad bone structure.

lionheart · 16/02/2008 16:45

YANBU

madamez · 16/02/2008 18:44

Healthwise, better to be fat and active and eat a healthy varied diet than to be thin but sit about all day and live on cigarettes and coffee.

pukkapatch · 16/02/2008 18:57

i have very skinny children. it is very difficult to find clothes to fit them. even the so called adjustable waists are really only meant for larger sizes. ds either looks like charlie chaplin in his jeans, or a clown with the trousers constantly falling down. dd aged just five has on a skirt which she is wearing for the third winter running. the elastic still fits.

its easier to find clothes to fit larger sizes than it is to find clothes that fit size 4's. in rl, not on magazines. and i am a size ten, with a post three babies belly. clothes to fit that shape are impossible to find. not everyone remains fat after having children, but they do have different figures.

gawkygirl · 16/02/2008 19:53

The trouble is that people see the end result, not the journey that got you there.
I have never, ever been thin (neither has my gran, my mum, my sister or my daughter so maybe it?s genetic?). The smallest I have ever been is a size 14. I used to try to lose weight but it never worked. When I got to age 40, I thought, ?I?m fed up with this. I try and try and get nowhere. People make unkind comments despite my efforts. What?s the point? I?m going to stop bothering and enjoy food instead.?
In the 10 years since then I have put on 2 stone that I cannot shift, despite now trying again. I look back fondly on my age-40 weight nowadays LOL.

cariboo · 16/02/2008 19:54

Was outraged by India Knight's comment in Sunday Times! She'd never have written that as a fatty.

FairyMum · 16/02/2008 19:59

Agree and agree that fat people not necessarily more unhealhty than thin people.

PussinJimmyChoos · 16/02/2008 20:04

Have you also noticed as well that a slim person eating junk doesn't get stared at, but a fat person eating exactly the same, does!

cariboo · 16/02/2008 20:05

This is one of my favourite topics. I'm a size 12 with a fat tummy & have to watch every mouthful to keep the status quo. When I overeat, it's because it tastes wonderful, because I'm tired, angry, depressed, frustrated, feeling fat anyway so what the hell, because I haven't eaten all day, boredom, etc, etc. Fortunately I don't live in a country where fast food is readily available! Crisps, chocolate, cheesecake & all that tasty but lethal stuff is like a drug. Having had a pothead dp in my youth, I know that if it's there, I'll have some, thanks!

Wilkie · 16/02/2008 20:11

I disagree with the OP. There is a massive difference between being FAT and being curvy.

I have just attended WW to get myself back to pre-pregnancy weight and lost 10lb. My BF came with me and lost 31.5lb. We both managed this relatively easily by sticking to the Core Plan.

What amazed me was the amount of women there who have been attending for AGES, very overweight women, who complained every week how hard it was to lose the weight but then proceeded to admit they had been cheating.

I guess what I am trying to say in a rambly way is that I do not think everyone should be a perfect size 10, but being FAT is unnecessary, and in many cases down to laziness. So shoot me now.

expatinscotland · 16/02/2008 20:20

In the region where we live, there is a huge obesity problem among children, and it's getting worse.

My daughter gets more stick for being very tall and thin than heavier children.

The fact is that being obese is now a major cause premature death - it has in some areas either caught up with or surpassed smoking as a cause of premature death.

One of my first cousins, age 39, died of obesity. Combined with her family disposition towards heart disease and high blood pressure, her obesity contributed to a fatal heart attack. She left behind a 2-year-old daughter.

Whilst yes, we need to be accepting of all body types - including naturally thin people - the issue of rising obesity does need to be addressed.

Because it is not harmless for a growing number of people.

cariboo · 16/02/2008 20:25

Agree, expat. dh's idea is to tax so-called junk food or ban it altogether. Like ciggies. Constant temptation & food addiction, along with inactivity is v. hard to overcome. The heavier you get, the less likely you are to move around. Another 'big' problem.

expatinscotland · 16/02/2008 20:27

I disagree with banning or taxing junk food.

Then you penalise everyone for someone else's problem.

I don't know, though, I see so many obese children around here (Scotland) you just wonder where it's all going to go in 4 or 5 decades.

cariboo · 16/02/2008 20:32

If there was an easy solution... but clearly there isn't.

ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 20:37

well it was fear for my health both mental and physical that made me lose weight

and i hated how i looked and felt a real old frump

well old full stop

i look about 15 years younger than i did

and i have tons more energy and i just feel so much better

and that is despite having about a zillion horrible things about my life

i reckon if i hadn't dones osomething i could quite easily have put on another couple of stone by now

cariboo · 16/02/2008 20:39

Apart from the obvious, of course. Eat less, move more. Many don't seem to be able to do that. But don't scorn them because of it!

Emprexia · 16/02/2008 20:55

I'm certainly not saying its the case with everyone thats overweight, but it could be that some have an underlying mental problem.

I was recently diagnosed with stress/anxiety and Obsessive Personality Disorder and have been put on AD's to try and help deal with it... i've been on them six weeks and am finding i have much more will power and motivation to get up and be active.

Before i was happy just to sit here and do nothing, but the last couple of weeks i've been cleaning, walking and running around playing with DS much more actively... and i'm enjoying it instead of feeling like its a chore.

Judy1234 · 16/02/2008 20:58

A lot of people overeat and that is a mental condition that is not that easy to treat, just as much as anorexia. They aren't hungry but they eat and sugary and junk foods are the type of foods to perpetuate that cycle. So it's not fair to blame people. They just can't stop eating that whole packet of biscuits once they've opened it but they do need help.

I am not very keen on fat acceptance as a lifestyle choice and I think most people who are very over weight probably do wish they were nearly size 10/14. We are getting to apoint where so many people are over weight we've almost lost sight in some area of what normal weights are or used to be.

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