For being annoyed I was asked to stand on a bus because of dog allergies?

[anywayhereswonderwall]

I went to visit a friend in London today and I took my dog. It's worth noting she is a mini poodle, and hypoallergenic, and well behaved. You can barely even tell she's there. I got on the bus as part of my journey. It was the middle of the day so there were a few empty seats (but not loads).

I got on and sat down, and the woman a few rows behind me said 'can you move , I have a dog allergy'. I apologised and moved a few rows forwards, the furthest forwards I could go and still get a seat.

She then shouted forwards 'not far enough, you're going have to stand at the front'.

I was confused, but did it. I spent the rest of the 35 minute journey standing right at the front of the bus while the woman was 3/4 of the way along, sitting.

I did what she said for the journey, but when I got off I felt annoyed and I'm not sure if I'm justified.

On my local fb group, a lady has posted in distress to say her cat was attacked by a dog on Sunday. Her cat had to be rushed to the vet where she lost her kittens and suffered internal injuries. We are currently waiting for an update as the cat is in its operation. It does happen ☹️

I also stood in dog poo as I walked across the grass verge outside my house 🤬

You seem a very angry person - chill out.

Does anyone want to start a second thread and post the link here? It's an interesting discussion

"Fear of dogs isn’t a disability. This common and fixable childhood trait is parented out."

The child in question is severely disabled.

Agreed. All the aggressive dogs running up to people. It never happens to me.

I'm chilled - wouldn't say the same about you.
Nice of you to throw around insults when you do not get people to agree with you. Bet you are one of 'those parents'. 😂

in theory the bus could become jam packed with large dogs

Oh this would be so lovely

Taking my medication usually slows the reaction/dilutes it, so to speak. My face could still swell, but taking my meds will mean the symptoms aren't so severe.

@Fourteenhouses - I get it. You thought you had made the right decision by going to a cafe which wasn’t advertised as being dog friendly. Someone with a dog arrived after you had and your son had a meltdown. You asked them to leave as the best option at that time.

I wouldn’t expect anyone on Mumsnet to acknowledge a) the needs of children over bloody dogs (or anything at all really) or b) that autism is an actual disability.

Managing a child with autism is hard. Taking a dog elsewhere is not.

@anywayhereswonderwall I have an assistance dog, and someone asked me to not sit near her because of “ Dog Allergies”, I sat at the back, luckily there was room.
I think standing is ridiculous- If she was allergic , you being stood or seated would have made not one iota of difference to an allergy.

It's not the needs of a child over the dog though.

It's a customer making demands that go against the wishes of the business owner, and losing them money in the process.

As a parent of a child with severe autism and non verbal and significant learning disability, and has to leave places where she cannot cope with. yes its reasonable to ask the owner but its not an entitlement which is what this parent is saying. She has every right to ask but I don't belive she is entitled to the owner saying yes. Yes she made a mistake which obviously can happen but it's on the parent that made the mistake. If the owner told her it was not a dog friendly cafe if she asked before hand and then she allowed a dog in then obviously she is entitled to expect the dog to leave but not if she mistakenly didn't ask.

Yes, course you are, really chilled out person, not angry at all as not standing the sound of children, essentially small humans, is completely rational🤔

New thread to carry on discussion if people want to

Dogs in public spaces | Mumsnet

No, it’s not an entitlement - I agree. But I think it was totally reasonable of her to ask.

I agree totally reasonable to ask but that's not what she has said multiple times. And I totally get having to be my daughter 's voice as she doesn't have one.

I can understand service dogs being allowed everywhere but any other dog shouldn't be allowed on public transport.

@Goldenbear
Some people (including autistic people) do not like the sound of screeching people.
How hard is that understand? You might like your precious darlings but the rest of us aren't obliged to. Personally I cannot understand anyone who doesn't like dogs - it isn't 'rational'. 😂

I'm not a big fan of kids either if I'm honest. Nor am I a big fan of dogs, mainly because they've caused me too much annoyance over the years from constant barking, injuring/scarring my sons lip by jumping up at him when he was little, dog poo on shoes/prams/bike wheels, destroying many a picnic, shitting in my house (from a guest) and some of their owners attitudes.

You said, 'sound' not screeching so even if a child is laughing you don't like it? So you don't like people for their mere existence because they are children you don't like them? That is quite an extreme reaction to your fellow humans, sounds miserable. I didn't say that I dislike dogs.

I think made me extremely clear they had to leave as it’s one thing attacking me it’s another someone or something else and he’s too strong

i have a lot of sympathy and empathy for parents of children like yours. You? if i encountered you i would do exactly the opposite of what you demand until you manage to reign in your entitlement and stop demanding things. You are appalling in that respect, even while "advocating" for your child (demanding people do what you tell them to).

No, it is not a question of whether the dog or child has greater 'rights'.

It is about two paying customers who would like to come to the cafe, one bringing their child who cannot co-exist in a room with dogs, and one bringing their pet dogs, which is allowed by the cafe.

Neither customer has the 'right' to insist that the cafe change their policy and include or exclude dogs.

The cafe owners have chosen to allow dogs, so dogs are allowed.

I think the loser here was the cafe owner wouldn't you say 🤷🏼‍♀️