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To think F off it’s my business if I take my kids to…

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Disneydisneydisneydisney · 23/04/2023 12:40

Walt Disney world florida.

kids will be both under 5, booked our first family to WDW florida and I’m incredibly excited as can’t wait to go and we got a great deal price wise BUT the reaction is not what I’ve been expecting.

in the travel agent on booking, older woman overheard and felt the need to say it’s absolutely silly taking children that young… I was taken aback

then at work chatting about upcoming holidays met with such reactions as ‘fucking idiots’ and selfish and more money than sense . My boss actually had to sort of intervene because the conversation felt quite heated and aggressive… since when did this become a thing? Why are people so against taking young children to Disney?

totally fine if it’s not your scene but it’s mine and kids under 3 are free so you don’t pay, mine have been to euro Disney twice and loved it . I don’t get this attitude

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Onedaysomeday2023 · 23/04/2023 15:13

Poppasocks · 23/04/2023 12:46

Probably just jealous they can't afford it! Tell them to have a nice time at Pontins!

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Im jealous cos we can only afford haven this year

Disneydisneydisneydisney · 23/04/2023 15:13

LudicrouslyCapaciousBag · 23/04/2023 15:11

I suppose if Disney World is once-in-a-lifetime then you might want to time it so that the children remember it, but this doesn’t seem to be the case for OP anyway. Very strange to get such vehement responses.

We took DD to Efteling a couple of months before her fourth birthday and she remembers snatches of it.

Tell me more about efteling please @LudicrouslyCapaciousBag ? It’s come up on my Fb newsfeed… what’s it like? How is it price wise? Would you recommend? I went DLP over it this year due to familiarity with characters but how did you find it?

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Ivyy · 23/04/2023 15:14

Hmm the "more money than sense" comment would suggest it's jealousy? Does the colleague who said this have dc? Maybe they couldn't afford to take their kids and felt resentful?

I've no idea how much it costs to go to NZ for 2 weeks but would class it as a big expensive trip, was it the colleague going to NZ who said "more money than sense"? If it was then they're probably very snobby about holidays and travel. Maybe they're the type who looks down on Disney, I remember my sil saying she couldn't think of anything worse than going there for a holiday when I mentioned it once. She classed it as chavvy like she did with places like Benidorm. Not my opinion btw!

It might be that people think it costs a lot more than the 4k you've paid op, maybe they think it's a 10k trip? I wouldn't have any idea what a trip to Disney costs now as my dd is older and was never really that into it when she was little. As I say I raised the idea of going when she was younger, but dh said a flat no because of his phobia of flying (it's a bit better now but he'll still only fly for 2-3 hours max!) I would have liked to go and experience it, because I was always desperate to go as a kid in the 80's! My parents were snobby about it though and said it was a waste of good money! That does seem to be an opinion I've heard quite a lot, but people are snobs about all sorts of things in life, so I wouldn't let it get to you op, it's just rude and unnecessary and says a lot more about them than you. The effing idiots comment is verbally aggressive and unprofessional, even said in a jokey banter way imo, that would bother me the most. Glad your boss stepped in, when you say it got heated, were you / they raising your voices? If you're being treated like that by a male colleague I'd take it further.

Onedaysomeday2023 · 23/04/2023 15:14

Have a great time !!!

tillylula · 23/04/2023 15:15

The kids might not remember it but it'll be lovely for you to remember

FlibbertyGibbitt · 23/04/2023 15:15

Fabulous ! I luuuuuurrrve Disney , going next year. Just be aware every ride has a shop which the kids will love absolutely everything ! Have a great time 🥳

Disneydisneydisneydisney · 23/04/2023 15:19

Ivyy · 23/04/2023 15:14

Hmm the "more money than sense" comment would suggest it's jealousy? Does the colleague who said this have dc? Maybe they couldn't afford to take their kids and felt resentful?

I've no idea how much it costs to go to NZ for 2 weeks but would class it as a big expensive trip, was it the colleague going to NZ who said "more money than sense"? If it was then they're probably very snobby about holidays and travel. Maybe they're the type who looks down on Disney, I remember my sil saying she couldn't think of anything worse than going there for a holiday when I mentioned it once. She classed it as chavvy like she did with places like Benidorm. Not my opinion btw!

It might be that people think it costs a lot more than the 4k you've paid op, maybe they think it's a 10k trip? I wouldn't have any idea what a trip to Disney costs now as my dd is older and was never really that into it when she was little. As I say I raised the idea of going when she was younger, but dh said a flat no because of his phobia of flying (it's a bit better now but he'll still only fly for 2-3 hours max!) I would have liked to go and experience it, because I was always desperate to go as a kid in the 80's! My parents were snobby about it though and said it was a waste of good money! That does seem to be an opinion I've heard quite a lot, but people are snobs about all sorts of things in life, so I wouldn't let it get to you op, it's just rude and unnecessary and says a lot more about them than you. The effing idiots comment is verbally aggressive and unprofessional, even said in a jokey banter way imo, that would bother me the most. Glad your boss stepped in, when you say it got heated, were you / they raising your voices? If you're being treated like that by a male colleague I'd take it further.

It started off with oh they can’t do anything there so why bother to which I corrected them and it got a bit more aggy from there, wasn’t pleasant

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LudicrouslyCapaciousBag · 23/04/2023 15:20

Disneydisneydisneydisney · 23/04/2023 15:13

Tell me more about efteling please @LudicrouslyCapaciousBag ? It’s come up on my Fb newsfeed… what’s it like? How is it price wise? Would you recommend? I went DLP over it this year due to familiarity with characters but how did you find it?

It’s wonderful! Walt Disney went there when he was planning the first Disneyland for inspiration.

It has a very different feel to Disney - older and more established without feeling dirty or tired. Some big rollercoasters if that is your thing but better IMO are the several excellent dark rides. There is a fairytale forest where you walk around tableaux from various traditional fairy tales.

There is a hotel with themed rooms or self-catering in studios or lodges. Everything is very flat and as it is in the Netherlands there are bikes everywhere so you can hire them to get around. I believe it’s significantly cheaper than Disney Paris.

SarahLucSc · 23/04/2023 15:27

Freefall212 · 23/04/2023 15:01

It depends on the money you have. There is nothing wrong with cheap vacations. Or saving up your money to do one big trip when the kids do remember so you can talk about it with them for years to come.

If you have a ton of money, of course, take a huge vacation every year or six months - it doesn't matter if they do or don't remember. Eventually they will be old enough to remember and in the meantime you have had years of luxurious and expensive vacations. But if you don't have that kind of cash and are saving for only one or two expensive vacations, then kid enjoyment and memory is a more important factor to consider.

I didn’t say there was anything wrong with cheap vacations or that I was referring to luxurious expensive holidays. As it happens, all of the memories I am referring to were days out and short breaks in the UK. My children have only been overseas once and that was in Europe.

Anyway, my point was that if you choose to spend money on any kind of activity because you will treasure the memories yourself, it doesn’t matter if your children won’t remember them. Everyone will enjoy themselves at the time which is what matters, as we never know what is round the corner.

Horses for courses etc….

theleafandnotthetree · 23/04/2023 15:27

All the people saying 'it's jealousy'.....I literally wouldn't take a present of a Disney holiday, would try and swap it for someplace else if I won it. People's negative reactions - which sound strange and over the top - are not necessarily jealousy

IGiveUpalready · 23/04/2023 15:33

Ignore them, at 3 and 5 (sorry if I got that wrong) your kids will have fab "in the moment" memories and you will have a lifetime memory of their enjoyment.
Your days will be as long or short as you need. If you are on Facebook, join "it's Orlando Time"
"The Dibb" is an online forum and with both, you will be with likeminded people who will be able to give you tips and hints on how to go away with young children.
Don't forget your ESTA.

BabbleBee · 23/04/2023 15:33

Kids not remembering is a strange reason not to do something - they don’t remember going to the zoo, the Panto or anything from when they’re tiny but we still do it right?! If you can afford it, if you’re going to have fun then why not. For what it’s worth I went when I was 15 and can’t remember much of it other than having a great time!

Mortimercat · 23/04/2023 15:34

theleafandnotthetree · 23/04/2023 15:27

All the people saying 'it's jealousy'.....I literally wouldn't take a present of a Disney holiday, would try and swap it for someplace else if I won it. People's negative reactions - which sound strange and over the top - are not necessarily jealousy

Well I do like WDW holidays and will go twice this year. But I also find the “jealousy” comments ridiculous. It is nothing to be jealous of, in fact I will probably gloss over my own trips and just say I went to the US if I can. 😂

WorryMcGee · 23/04/2023 15:34

I went when I was nearly 6, I do remember bits of it. My sister who was 3 doesn’t remember a thing. Older cousins remember loads. My grandparents took the whole family when they sold their business and retired, it was the first time we’d been abroad. My parents, auntie and uncle have wonderful memories of it and the family still talks about it now 32 years on so it’s not just about the kids’ memories imo - it’s fine for adults to build amazing memories of doing magical stuff with their kids even if the kids won’t remember it!

5128gap · 23/04/2023 15:35

theleafandnotthetree · 23/04/2023 15:27

All the people saying 'it's jealousy'.....I literally wouldn't take a present of a Disney holiday, would try and swap it for someplace else if I won it. People's negative reactions - which sound strange and over the top - are not necessarily jealousy

I'm inclined to agree that people have a tendancy to assume jealousy too much. But in this case I can't think of any other reason why people would trash someone else's holiday plans when their opinion wasn't even asked for. If someone told me they were going skiing for example, I'd not point out the reasons that would be a boring miserable waste of good money (to me) I'd just say 'that's nice' and privately think rather you than me.

Nocutenamesleft · 23/04/2023 15:36

Freefall212 · 23/04/2023 14:58

That same memory doesn't have to cost $$$$ and contribute to a 200 billion dollar company's profits!

Oh. For sure! In fact we take our kids to haven every year. It was only cos OP says she was going to go often? Or did I misread that?

Coyoacan · 23/04/2023 15:42

Personally I prefer to teach small children about the wonders of the real world. There is more true magic in a rock pool or an anthill

Stravaig · 23/04/2023 15:43

Hellybelly84 · 23/04/2023 14:34

We’re well travelled but also love all inclusives/Center Parcs as its brilliant for the kids (and we enjoy it too). You can still get out and explore at an all inclusive, but love having all the facilities there. Being in a hut on the beach in Thailand wouldn’t be practical with the kids for most people (although thats been done pre-kids).

I’d say its more likely jealousy - if the holiday isnt their thing, surely they would just say ‘have a great time’. Who would seriously start a heated debate with colleagues over a holiday???

I hadn't thought of jealousy (because crowds and organised fun are my idea of hell 🤣). Besides, surely the pleasure of swapping holiday stories is vicarious enjoyment of experiences that you either can't or wouldn't ever have in reality? Disney chat lets me glimpse a world of joy and magic through the eyes of people who do love it. Same with exotic adventures that I could never afford.

Theirs is such a weird reaction that I'm quite interested in figuring it out now!

Disneyblueeyes · 23/04/2023 15:45

Christ it's just a holiday.

Why are people so obsessed with 'making memories'. My 4 year old will enjoy it when we go in December. I don't care if she doesn't remember it, we will! We've been twice just us and love it !

We'll probably take her again a few more times at different stages. Yes we can afford it.
It's a fantastic place. It's magical in fact.
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Doesn't matter if others are jealous, don't like Disney, whatever. You do you.

ZenNudist · 23/04/2023 15:45

Its still a good price. Prob no more than £6.5k for 10 days (that's assuming £200 per day if you budget carefully).

For example character dining in DAK was £35 per adult, bit cheaper for the dc, plus taxes plus 20% tip. I cant remember what a pre-order and walk up burger and chips of toastie type meal was. I think like £50. I know we paid $70 for icecream and soft drinks in DMK.

I think you can do it cheaper with the picnic backpack and frozen water bottles if you're willing to carry a big bag around with you.

Will the youngest have a pram because you could stick the food backpack in the pram and save on the extortionate cost of food and drink in the park.

Don't forget genie plus upgrade to your tix if you don't already have it. Not too expensive and you will miss some rides or be queuing forever without it.

Grumpypotamus · 23/04/2023 15:46

Coyoacan · 23/04/2023 15:42

Personally I prefer to teach small children about the wonders of the real world. There is more true magic in a rock pool or an anthill

It’s possible to do both you know.

Disneyblueeyes · 23/04/2023 15:46

BabbleBee · 23/04/2023 15:33

Kids not remembering is a strange reason not to do something - they don’t remember going to the zoo, the Panto or anything from when they’re tiny but we still do it right?! If you can afford it, if you’re going to have fun then why not. For what it’s worth I went when I was 15 and can’t remember much of it other than having a great time!

Exactly.

Better not take our 3 year old to the pantomime. Let's just lock her in the house for 7 years until she's old enough to remember her nice trips.

ZenNudist · 23/04/2023 15:46

Coyoacan · 23/04/2023 15:42

Personally I prefer to teach small children about the wonders of the real world. There is more true magic in a rock pool or an anthill

🍘🙄

Disneyblueeyes · 23/04/2023 15:49

@Coyoacan considering we saw an armadillo at the side of the road last time we went to Florida, your comment is ridiculous.

Florida is a real place you know. A very interesting one actually.

Grumpypotamus · 23/04/2023 15:52

Coyoacan · 23/04/2023 15:42

Personally I prefer to teach small children about the wonders of the real world. There is more true magic in a rock pool or an anthill

You’d probably like going on Living with the land, Spaceship Earth, Carousel of progress or the safari at AK. My dd got higher grades writing an essay at school because of things she learnt from Spaceship Earth.

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