I don't believe we've been to the moon and SpaceXs failure further convinces me.

[MrsRobinsonsHandprints]

I know I've posted this before and the majority of you think I'm batty, but I don't think we've landed on the moon.

3 billion USD, a giant leap in technological advances and yet it can't even launch.

Elon is a Lizard person and just wants us to believe it failed. I assure you it works and he has plans for it.

My husband has a PhD in AI engineering (not aeronautics though) and believes we did go to the moon multiple times but that the photographs/sets of the first moon landing were faked, likely due to the real ones being poor quality and not impressive. Make of that what you will.

There is a book on the Apollo Guidance Computer, but it is extremely boring unless you are into microprocessors or a dedicated science geek.
Waves !

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

The technology back then was different to what they're building now. This enormous space-x rocket is going to be the start of a new space age where we will hopefully be able to go much further than before with the old technology.

It's sort of like saying that ships couldn't have crossed the Atlantic in 1858 because Titanic sank in 1912. Titanic was an attempt at new technology that failed when circumstances challenged it.

The main difference is that this was an experimental launch, unmanned. No lives were lost. This was, inherently, a test. It did better than many thought it would. Getting off the pad was a success.

I work in tech and I promise you that all new technology fails multiple times before it ever works.

That would be The Clangers surely.

Such a poor assessment of Musk and his achievements.

I get that people don't like his politics, but his business achievements are unquestionable.

Tesla have revolutionised the electric car market.

SpaceX, they are about so much more that this Starship project (which is very much a current blue skies project). His Falcon rockets have revolutionised the commercial launch market and sent the competition reeling to try and catch up with similar ideas.

This gives a history and assessment of SpaceX and its impact in this marketplace :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_launch_market_competition

To be honest, I don't give a shit. I'm never going to the moon, so it doesn't bother me.

It went wrong because Elon Musk is behind it. I thought it was hilarious. He's a pillock with a massive ego (and no he didn't come from nothing, his family owns a mining company).

The reason society hasn't progressed past the 60's in terms of space exploration (as in physically going anywhere) is because the world is run by useless, incompetent elites that can't see past their own bank balance and dont live in the real world, and the economy has been going to shit for decades (we've just been doing lots of QE and pumping credit into the system to save it). The 60's was a boom time when money was thrown at everything and there was a feeling of hope for the future. Now nobody can be arsed because we are just making the Elon Musks of the world rich, while struggling to even buy ourselves a home. I'm glad his little ego massaging mission failed.

Sorry, I was sort of replying to the poster you were replying too but was too lazy to go back to find them! Apologies again.

This thread is brilliant 😅

Oh absolutely, but some people don't know what they don't know, kind of a black swan thing.

Weird you ask this as my sister and I had this conversation today. I feel the same as how come if we got to the moon in 1969 they haven't done it since with all the money and new technology.

Don’t think there is any credible evidence the images are faked but he has got a point about the quality of a lot of the original images.

Just about every photo taken during Apollo is now available on-line for public viewing and if you flick through even just one magazine it’s interesting to see how many stuffed up photos were actually taken (out of focus, lens obscured, that sort of thing) The images that made the press were the best that were available.

Link to one source here

https://apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

I don't think the London underground really exists. In actual fact you go down an escalator, walk along a corridor, then get into a 'train'. The doors close, lights flash, the 'train' rocks and then the doors open. You get out, walk along a corridor, up an escalator and you're at your destination.

It's you walking and taking the escalator that takes you there, not the train.

After all, they couldn't have invented the underground in 1863 - there weren't even mobile phones or fake tan
then.

But yet again that begs the 64,000 dollar question that nobody has answered yet: what technology do you think was lacking in the 60’s?

9/11 was a controlled demolition too. Inside job.

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I'm with you OP, people simply aren't intelligent enough to question things.

Because all this ‘new technology’ isn’t actually as good as we are sold it is? It adds nothing to intelligence or the ability to think, nor to organisational capability. In fact it seems to be working against all that lately.

Your poor parents.

Look there's a unicorn falling off the edge of the earth

@lacucarachaaa
I wouldn't be surprised op. I just don't think as a species we've achieved something once and not been able to replicate it and build on it after.

Do you believe that the Romans had underfloor heating?
Do you believe that no-one in Europe in the middle ages had underfloor heating?
History is not a straight line.

The reason people choose to believe that we didn't go to the moon is because the consequences of accepting that we did are intolerable to their core beliefs.

If you believe in 'progress', i.e. the quasi-religious belief that humankind is on a journey from the caves to a bright shiny future among the stars, it is kind of hard to swallow any evidence that counter-acts this.
To suggest that we went to the moon about 60 years ago but can't afford the resources to go back again, sticks in the throat.

The fact is that economic and social "progress" has halted in recent decades and gone into reverse. We are regressing.
Just how far we wealthy nations will 'fall back', or rather fall forward, into ordinary everyday grinding poverty, is yet to be seen.

Do you believe we’ve been to space at all?

If yes, why do you think it’s so far fetched to have landed on the moon 50 years ago?

If no, why do you think people are trying to land on/colonise mars and not the moon which is obviously a lot closer and easier to get to?

We haven't tried since Apollo13, neither has anyone else.

what about Apollos 14, 15, 16, 17?

This.

The OP can belief anything she likes but it really doesn't matter at all to anyone. Who cares if insignificant X from MN doesn't believe that people have been to the moon.

My dad could get it up in 1969 I doubt he could now. Does that mean I don't exist?

this is why people fall for this crap, isn't it. For whatever reason, they need to be told they are intelligent, and people peddling this rubbish tell them they are intelligent....