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DC don't want me to have another child

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tornmum101 · 19/04/2023 23:39

background: 2 DC from previous relationship with a man. Now in same sex relationship (5+ years)

My DP and I would like to have a baby together using donor sperm in the next couple of years. Both DC make negative comments about this regularly.

would you still have another child? AIBU to do something my DC say they will hate?

OP posts:
Charley50 · 20/04/2023 19:16

Ersorrywhatnow · 20/04/2023 10:05

When I was about 15 my parents wanted to buy a run down house in a seaside town about 15 miles from where we lived. I made such a fuss about not wanting to move, being too far from school ( even though I would get a lift with mum everyday or the fast train) out in the sticks etc. that they didn’t.
As an adult I realise what a selfish prick I had been. It was an amazing opportunity for them to buy a house that would have been amazing done up and worth a small fortune now in a beautiful seaside town that they would have been lucky to retire in.
why they let me sway them I don’t know, they never got the chance again to have a house like that. And I left home 3 years later.

Don’t let the opinion of a 15 year old on ANYTHING major in YOUR life hold
you back! We’re programmed to be selfish little arseholes at that age.

Sit down with DP, find out how important this is to her. If my now DE had said she never wanted kids it would have been a deal breaker for me. I wouldn’t have stayed with her.

Regrets from inaction are the worst ones.

Excellent point.

QueenSmartypants · 20/04/2023 19:33

Meandfour · 20/04/2023 18:41

From the OP; they weren’t saying they were concerned they wouldn’t love it. They told her not to have another child and that they wouldn’t love it if she did. A statement as opposed to a concern.

Do you always take things so literally?

Sittwritt · 20/04/2023 19:49

I know what I’d do if my kids needed me and that I’d be there for them. Not invest in further relationships or remarry and have other babies, no way.

Drfosters · 20/04/2023 19:55

Sittwritt · 20/04/2023 19:49

I know what I’d do if my kids needed me and that I’d be there for them. Not invest in further relationships or remarry and have other babies, no way.

What happens if they are 20, 30 or 40 years old?

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:03

Meandfour · 20/04/2023 19:02

I’m not the one at risk of damaging my relationship with my 19 & 15yos. Im not the only poster that thinks this is a bad idea!

That's fine and you have to remember they are not toddlers who needs lots of explanations. They will be okay and the op has posted that she has spoken to them again and they are fine. I think the op is over thinking it and the majority of posters are also over thinking it. It ain't that bad they will love their new sibling. I have 4 children and we are doing just fine.

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:05

Drfosters · 20/04/2023 19:55

What happens if they are 20, 30 or 40 years old?

Nothing wrong with that they will still be alive and in good health hopefully.

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:05

Sittwritt · 20/04/2023 19:49

I know what I’d do if my kids needed me and that I’d be there for them. Not invest in further relationships or remarry and have other babies, no way.

That's what you would do she ain't you is she.

EmmaEmerald · 20/04/2023 20:07

Drfosters · 20/04/2023 19:55

What happens if they are 20, 30 or 40 years old?

I'm on another chat board - well it's now defunct, so I was on another board.

there was heartbroken poster whose dad got a new wife about 30 years younger than him, she got pregnant (planned) and he expected his 40ish daughter to be happy, to help with babysitting and for her children to be friends with the new baby, and asked her to help out if he died.

she didn't want to deal with any of it. I think every single poster completely understood her upset, who the hell wants a baby sibling at 40?

OMGitsnotgood · 20/04/2023 20:09

i cannot believe some of the comments on here!!!
go ahead OP, be happy.

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:11

EmmaEmerald · 20/04/2023 20:07

I'm on another chat board - well it's now defunct, so I was on another board.

there was heartbroken poster whose dad got a new wife about 30 years younger than him, she got pregnant (planned) and he expected his 40ish daughter to be happy, to help with babysitting and for her children to be friends with the new baby, and asked her to help out if he died.

she didn't want to deal with any of it. I think every single poster completely understood her upset, who the hell wants a baby sibling at 40?

What do you think of Ronny Wood he had a baby at 70 and his girlfriend was in her late 30's.

EmmaEmerald · 20/04/2023 20:16

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:11

What do you think of Ronny Wood he had a baby at 70 and his girlfriend was in her late 30's.

It's not something I have an opinion on
but if it affects other family members, I can see why they'd be upset. I think Ronnie Wood has enough money not to ask older siblings to babysit!

of course people can do this if they want but they've got to accept the consequences might include that other DC don't want to be involved.

I do have an opinion on the hamster - DC should be allowed one!

strawberry2017 · 20/04/2023 20:26

How old are you OP? Do you really want to start again after all this time?
If I had a 19 and 15 year old the last thing I would want is to start again at the baby stage.
You are just getting your life back. It's likely your children wouldn't have a relationship with your new child, They are both technically old enough to be parents themselves now.

Drfosters · 20/04/2023 20:29

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 20:05

Nothing wrong with that they will still be alive and in good health hopefully.

Yes but my point being that once they are grown up with their own families, have they a right to dictate to you whether you can have further children or enter a new relationship? If they were 30 and said I need you mum, drop everything including your new relationship because you need to put me first, would that be reasonable?

in this instance, her eldest is 19, on the cusp of starting their adult life. Their sibling will follow only a few years later. They will move out and leave their mum and partner alone in the house. Now for loads of people this is a moment to rejoice and start a new phase of their life but for a lot of people this is a sad and depressing time and they are young enough to want the house to be filled with young children again. I totally understand that. I think you need to put your existing kids first, to an extent, but you also need to remember you are a woman first before you are a mum. The OP needs to think about the next couple of years, the next 5 years and then next 10 and work out what she want her life to look like

HamBone · 20/04/2023 21:00

Again, just make it clear that you have no expectations of them in regard to responsibility for their sibling- unless they wish to be involved.

One of my friends married someone with three children from his first marriage and they ended up having two more children, then a surprise third baby.

Only one of the now adult children is interested in their younger siblings and makes a particular effort to see them; none of them are their guardians either. There’s no animosity, they’re just in their late 20’s-30 and at such different life stages.

As long as you accept that your older children may not be involved in your baby’s life, that’s fine.

Humanbiology · 20/04/2023 21:09

@Drfosters You don't stop being a Parent when your child leaves home they will still need support in other ways. They may need emotional or financial support later on or babysitting duties with the grandchildren. That's the life you sign up to and no matter what you will always be a woman.

Sittwritt · 20/04/2023 21:26

Drfosters · 20/04/2023 19:55

What happens if they are 20, 30 or 40 years old?

Same exactly the same. Second marriages mess your kids inheritance up. No doubt in my mind what is most important and it’s them.

Nothingisblackandwhite · 21/04/2023 00:05

Meandfour · 20/04/2023 17:02

You’re not “just like a father would be” at all. You will have absolutely no biological relation to this child. You’ll have parental responsibility but that’s it.

So I’m assuming adopted children do not count as real children ?

Ersorrywhatnow · 21/04/2023 07:03

‘You’re not “just like a father would be” at all. You will have absolutely no biological relation to this child. You’ll have parental responsibility but that’s it.’

and do you feel the same about adopted children? Their adopted parents aren’t parents at all but just have parental responsibility and ‘that’s it’ ?

or do you only hold these view for same sex families?

Meandfour · 21/04/2023 07:10

Ersorrywhatnow · 21/04/2023 07:03

‘You’re not “just like a father would be” at all. You will have absolutely no biological relation to this child. You’ll have parental responsibility but that’s it.’

and do you feel the same about adopted children? Their adopted parents aren’t parents at all but just have parental responsibility and ‘that’s it’ ?

or do you only hold these view for same sex families?

I didn’t say not she’s not a parent, I said she will have no biological relation to the child so it’s not the same as a father.
So yes, of course I think that other people with no biological relation to the child are also the same…… strange question.

Meandfour · 21/04/2023 07:11

Nothingisblackandwhite · 21/04/2023 00:05

So I’m assuming adopted children do not count as real children ?

Can you quote where I said “not real children” as I can’t seem to find it …… you know, seeing as how I never actually said that…..

Nothingisblackandwhite · 21/04/2023 07:57

Meandfour · 21/04/2023 07:11

Can you quote where I said “not real children” as I can’t seem to find it …… you know, seeing as how I never actually said that…..

But you think they are less since there is no biological link ? Or is your issue purely homophobia?

Ersorrywhatnow · 21/04/2023 08:07

‘You’ll have parental responsibility but that’s it.’

this is the bit that seems to suggest that you don’t think OP will be an actual parent. Which is bullshit.
Not having a biological link to your child doesn’t mean you’ve got parental responsibility and ‘that’s it’

Unless you think that couple who e used a donor for fertility issues - either egg or sperm also aren’t anything but guardians of some sort then your post is clearly homophobic

monsteramunch · 21/04/2023 08:57

I didn’t say not she’s not a parent, I said she will have no biological relation to the child so it’s not the same as a father. So yes, of course I think that other people with no biological relation to the child are also the same…… strange question.

So if a man adopts a child and says he's now a father, you would consider that to be a lie? Goodness.

Ersorrywhatnow · 21/04/2023 09:05

You’re not the ‘real’ mother or father, or who’s ‘really’ the mum or it’s not the same as etc is something that gay parents hear all the time- often from the older generations, or religious people and sometimes just from fuckwits.

I had a colleague - 4 kids, 3 different dads single parent with only 1 of the dad’s involved with the kids - offer the opinion that she didn’t think it was fair that DW and I had chosen to have children without a father.

Not once have I ever commented on her situation, because it’s not my business and From what she says she didn’t deliberately choose to be in this situ, and actually I think she’s a pretty good mum.

But it did tick me off that she looked at me and DW, 20 years together, stable, financially comfortable, obvs thought long and hard about having children together, and went ‘mmm, no, that’s not right. Those poor kids’

Meandfour · 21/04/2023 09:13

Nothingisblackandwhite · 21/04/2023 07:57

But you think they are less since there is no biological link ? Or is your issue purely homophobia?

Nice try 😂😂😂 8/10