Well fuck me pink and call me Rosie. AIBU?

[TooBigForMyBoots]

Do you know that Belfast and NI are in the British Isles? Are you aware that some British people claim they do not know that NI is in the same timezone as the rest of the UK?

YABU = You can't expect British people to know the history and geography of their country.
YANBU = Of course British people know this stuff. Anyone who says otherwise is having you on.

Yeah this isn’t really an answer. “cos they learnt it in school” is a bit of a weak argument TBH.

Nobody has mentioned English people.

People born here don’t want to be British, they ARE British. There’s a difference

As I said, I am not British and have therefore never taken the test.

Check out what someone doesn’t know quite early in this thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2721627-oh-i-never-watch-the-news

Yeah this isn’t really an answer. “cos they learnt it in school” is a bit of a weak argument TBH.
Ok they were born knowing it. Better?

You've missed or are ignoring the key point of that member's comment - "....hence they've voted to remain part of British isles rather than a United ireland."

Leaving aside the incorrect name for the UK, you know as well as I do that national identity is a general guide to which way people would vote. Its a rule of thumb that broadly holds, bit cannot be taken as an absolute.

So, they're obviously referring to the 1973 referendum held in March that year, IIRC. The only such vote Northern Ireland has had.

Honestly - why?

Why does never having had reason to look up and check one fact make me thick?

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Absolutely - and it's odd some act like the people of the ROI are a monolith who all know the exact same things to the same degree as each other!

It would be very unusual if every single person can name all counties AND point to them on a map as well with 100% accuracy.

What has anyone of that got to do with a PP’s (incorrect) stance that NI people shouldnt be and don’t refer to themselves as Irish?

It a was a single poster and other other posters comment was misinterpreted.

You aren’t thick.

You don’t know the time zone differences between two countries, neither of which you from - so the same as around 90% of the world’s population. It’s more about people here having a shit Saturday night in their miserable existences whereby sticking the boot in easy targets is the only thing that makes them happy.

Intellectual snobs are the worst and they come off as massive cunts.

It’s been explained to you multiple times already. I’m not doing it again.

I really do roll my eyes when people claim that 'the British Isles' is 'just a geographical term'.

It's a geo-political term, dummies. There's a difference. And a reason that the Irish government doesn't use the phrase.

Thanks, will have a read

Expecting grown adult voters in the UK to know that the UK only has one, ONE, only 1 time zone is not intellectual snobbery.

I have my proud hat on ;)

and it's odd some act like the people of the ROI are a monolith who all know the exact same things to the same degree as each other!
They're taught the same things as per the national curriculum.

My DH is from Coleraine. He considers (and calls himself) himself British and would never call himself Irish, nor would any of his family. I obviously can’t speak for NI Protestants, but that’s how all the ones I’ve met identify.

So I was right - OP just wanted to piss her (badly placed given how off mark she is) snobbery all over MN. When ironically she totally got the wrong end of the stick. That poster didn’t think Belfast was in a different time zone at all, just what the name of the time zone was.

Which is fair given Belfast isn’t in Britain and the summer time zone is British Summer Time.

Puzzled as to why OP PM’d me asking which thread I meant. Maybe she has short term memory loss.

The geography curriculum includes the counties of Ireland. It's not optional.

No one said otherwise though.

You still haven’t said who you mean when you refer to ‘UK citizens’ who don’t know Belfast is in the same tie zone as the rest of the UK. Who do you mean? Why won’t you answer?

The member didn't say NI people "shouldn't be" referring to themselves as Irish.

Rather, they stated "The majority of Northern Ireland would refer to themselves as 'northern Irish or British'rather than Irish".

British is still the main identity as per the census. Irish is not a majority identity. Northern Irish isn't the same thing as Irish either, so Irish is clearly the minority as the other two are bigger combined which was that member's point.

They also didn't say people don't refer to themselves as Irish at all. The important phrase in their post is "...rather than Irish". That is an acknowledgement there are people who do - indeed, they will have seen Irish Tricolours in certain areas.

Intellectual snobs are the worst and they come off as massive cunts.
Yesss, can't be doing with it myself - if someone admits to not knowing something, or asks a question, either answer or shut the fuck up lol.
Bet there's gaping holes in their knowledge too, nobody knows everything!