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gardenlife · 2023-04-15T06:26:59+00:00

Junior doctor says she can't afford to start family https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-65275409 Wait hang on - the article shows the payslip and this doctor is only on £14 an hour. Having to lay in excess of £1600 for their own exams. That's not much more than minimum wage is it? Yes she has £80k plus debt from studies. I agree with minimum wage being increased but this is closing the gap between non professional jobs and professionals Surely they deserve more?

Destiny123 · 15/04/2023 17:46

Psychiatrists used to be able to retire 10y earlier than any other Dr due to the nature of their job. They now can't.

I didnt want sympathy re tax bills, I'm too junior to be affected. More highlighting another issue meaning we are haemorrhaging drs at both ends of their career now

Destiny123 · 15/04/2023 17:53

And psych salary (as gp) comes with a 10k salary supplement during training as noone wants to do it as a career, so that'll v much sway the salaries you hear of

Samphiredragonfly · 15/04/2023 17:54

Tbf it doesn't really matter if we think they are paid their worth or not. Few of us on here are doctors and have no idea what their job is like. They obviously think they aren't paid enough (despite the two flashy cars on the drive or whatever cited in a post up thread) and they will leave in their droves if the government fails to listen. In fact they already are leaving in reality. Just don't whinge when things get even worse and the 2 week cancer wait gets extended to a 3 and 4 week one or your child can't see a specialist until next year...
@Destiny123 in my experience ICU juniors are supported really well by senior staff.
They don't make life or death decisions and are able to check most things with senior medics. I think it's one of the better areas to work as the nursing staff are generally very experienced and knowledgeable.

Crazykatie · 15/04/2023 18:06

Basic starting pay is around £28k then depending on unsocial hours worked, extra training, experience, it goes up, so it could be £14 an hour or so. As for the OP saying she couldn’t afford to start a family, does she expect to work for 6 months then take maternity leave, because that’s not really a good way to start your career.

Destiny123 · 15/04/2023 18:07

Lol I had an 03 plate fiesta until 2y ago. Now a 2015 KA

Yep we are super supported in icu. The bosses are fantastic when I wake them hourly for every referral and come instantly when we are swamped/out of our depth But at the end of the day at 2am putting the sickest patients to sleep/managing cardiac arrests it's just you and a colleague and the boss is 30min drive away (so yes if they arrest from their physiology when you put them to sleep - which isn't that rare the 30min drive after they've woken and dressed can feel like forever

ReplGirl · 15/04/2023 18:14

Samphiredragonfly · 15/04/2023 17:54

Tbf it doesn't really matter if we think they are paid their worth or not. Few of us on here are doctors and have no idea what their job is like. They obviously think they aren't paid enough (despite the two flashy cars on the drive or whatever cited in a post up thread) and they will leave in their droves if the government fails to listen. In fact they already are leaving in reality. Just don't whinge when things get even worse and the 2 week cancer wait gets extended to a 3 and 4 week one or your child can't see a specialist until next year...
@Destiny123 in my experience ICU juniors are supported really well by senior staff.
They don't make life or death decisions and are able to check most things with senior medics. I think it's one of the better areas to work as the nursing staff are generally very experienced and knowledgeable.

Exactly I'm not sure why people can't see the correlation between this and NHS wait times!
Or maybe it's just easier to blame the greedy doctors

Mischance · 15/04/2023 18:16

If you factor in all the unpaid overtime and missed breaks and unsocial hours, then their pay is far too low. My OH worked massively over his contracted hours for no extra pay.

Botw1 · 15/04/2023 18:21

@Samphiredragonfly

Nurses in most areas are generally very experienced and knowledgeable

JulieHoney · 15/04/2023 18:26

I fully support the junior doctors and the nurses in their strikes. Their conditions C are ridiculous and their pay far too low to retain them in the U.K.

Samphiredragonfly · 15/04/2023 18:47

@Botw1 generally but not always.

Botw1 · 15/04/2023 18:49

@Samphiredragonfly

Enough for it to be irrelevant to your point