Another angel killed

[Thomasina79]

RIP little Finley.

why, why are such babies returned to monsters like the two who murdered baby Finley. Only 10 months old.

Poor Finley, rest in paradise beautiful boy.

For his parents to go to the lengths of manipulating agencies for months during Court Proceedings to get their son returned to their care only to brutally kill him is the epitome of evil. They could have walked away, they could have gone with a neutral position in Court and been free of Finley whilst he lived safely with adopters. Chilling.

My thoughts. As someone else said, the parents were probably of the mindset that they have a right over the child regardless of the home conditions being neglectful and abusive.

'They fought to get him back because, like so many parents, they see the child as a possession that was taken from them, not as a human being'

Spot on. Some people honestly have no capacity to take care of anyone, or to consider anyone else's needs for a second, even a young baby. That's not an excuse in any way, but some parents honestly can't see their own child as anything other than a noisy demanding nuisance. It's really disturbing

130 injuries on a tiny little body . Almost beyond imagining

In this case SW's wanted baby to stay with foster carers for 6 months but the court overruled and sent the poor little baby back to the biological parents and it's death. The person who made the decision at court should not be allowed to make any more decisions.

@caringcarer I think that’s unfair at this stage. We don’t know what evidence was presented in court for the judge to make a decision based on. It’s not right to point the finger before the child safeguarding review has even happened. It’s likely to be incredibly complex.

I just read, I am in floods of tears, how could they?

They are pure evil

But we do know SW wanted baby to stay with foster carers for 6 months not sent back to death in 6 weeks. They would not have stated 6 months unless they had real strong concerns. I'm a foster carer and SW have to have very strong evidence to ask for 6 months in foster care.

There are countless children who live in squalor and poverty with drug addicts. They can't (but should) remove them all. It can't be predicted which situations will become deadly.

Completely agree.

@caringcarer I don’t disagree that they must have had serious concerns but the Cafcass report may have been quite different from the recommendations of the local authority, or the evidence presented by the LA may have been insufficient or missed out important information. We just don’t know yet. That is what the reviews are for.
You can’t decide that a judge should never be allowed on cases again without even seeing the evidence that they were asked to rule on. It’s this kind of knee-jerk reaction that prevents us learning proper lessons. By deciding that they problem was a particular person we close our eyes to the issues in systems and society in general that played a key role.

She said the father had beaten him to death and she did nothing.

How can they become parents? How long will they even spend in jail? If they hurt a dog they would be banned from keeping pets for life. If they raped someone else's child they'd be banned from being near other people's children.

But they could go on and bring more children into the world to suffer at their hands. It isn't fair.

I just don't understand how anyone could do that to a baby? The injuries are truly, truly horrific. Poor wee mite.

I'm not usually an advocate for the death penalty but I think these two deserve the medieval treatment. They're just repugnant.

It’s not fair is it, how any poor innocent baby has to be born into that life. What chance did he have. Look at the filth his “parents” lived in. Absolute bastards.

that poor jury. Sadly I expect they won’t get the support they really need after this, they must be traumatised.

Another peak covid case too :( so many children not being seen has had devastating impacts. Finley's hearings would all have been remote, I wonder if that influenced the outcome unintentionally.

Just read about this too. It's made me cry - how those miserable f*ckers could do that to their tiny little baby I don't know. Not usually an advocate of capital punishment but can anybody please explain to me why it isn't appropriate for crimes like this. I hope they are made to suffer in prison. Rest in peace poor little Finley.

All they cared about was their next puff of cannabis, Finley had cannabis in his blood from second hand smoke.

Disgusting people, disgusting court decision, disgusting example of what cannabis makes people do.

Scum!! I work with SS and it's very hard to get children removed from their home, what possessed that family Court judge!

On December 21st the Mother messaged a relative begging them to send the police because she knew he was going to kill the baby. They didn't. They were allowed to cancel visits because of Covid. All of the children's charities predicted these deaths. There'll be apologies over the lack of joined up working, staff absence and miscommunication. Just like in the case of Star, Arthur, Logan and all of the other children sacrificed to lockdown.

I agree and I can’t even imagine the heartbreak of Finley’s foster parents

Well, sort of. Social workers always seem to get the bulk of the blame when they are only one part of a huge system. And in this case they applied for the child to be removed! They were denied this. What more could they realistically have done?

Why did the couple want their baby back? He was obviously just an inconvenience in their life of drugs and squalor, they cannot have cared about him in the slightest, so why not leave him in the care of social services?

I wasn't sure if the relative did approach the police or not?

I often wonder this. If you hated and didn’t want your baby why not abandon it? You could give your baby up to social services and live a free and happy life with no consequences.

Although growing up I know lots of us in foster care had parents who would rather have kept us, not always for reasons of the heart. It’s financially beneficial to have a small child in the house, especially if you’re not spending the money allocated to the child on the child.

You get more money on UC if you have a child - more money 🟰 more drugs.

I just read this article. God, so upsetting and absolutely preventable. They fought/demanded to have him back too. Why?

He was back with them for 39 days before being murdered.

He looked like such a happy little soul in the pictures too. His foster family obviously gave him a great start in life and he was failed miserably, no doubt somebody thought he was better off with his birth family. What an absolute load of shite.

Still, I imagine they will trot out the same old line "lessons will be learned" - when in fact somebody should lose their job over this.

@MeiMeiSushi @Kanaloa I hadn't thought of that - of course, not a penny of their UC or child benefit would have been spent on Finley