C-section not real birth

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I was just scrollling through Facebook and saw a post about women getting shamed for c-sections. I’ve had 3 vaginal births never a c section so I have never personally experienced this kind of…. Well wtf is it…. Ridiculousness. Is this genuinely a real thing?? Are there women out there being shamed for having c-sections? If so Jesus Christ. Seriously?!

Vaginal much harder all round? Oh I don't doubt they're hard and many women are left with disabilities because of them.

But do you consider major surgery to be any easier? Really?

God, if a woman had an horrendous vaginal birth and a section is easier next time around then more power to her but there is no nice, easy way of getting that baby out.

Oh FFS, you sanctimonious t#*t 😂😆😆

I’ve had 2 c-sections (first emergency c-section, second a strongly advised planned c-section to avoid same issues happening as first labour). I’ve never been shamed for it but I do feel that I need to justify why I had them whenever I talk about it so that I’m not shamed for having them.

I will never understand this kind of argument.

There are no awards, badges of honour, money bonuses for a vaginal birth over a C-section/the other way around.

As women, we should be standing up for one another, not fighting because Mary pushed Sarah out of her vagina and thinks she is superior to Jane who had a planned c section.

You're all nuts to be arguing with each other.

I've had 13 miscarriages, I'm almost 34 weeks pregnant by some kind of miracle. I could not give a fuck how another woman gave birth, breastfeeds or bottle feeds etc etc. I honestly just do not care as I'm not them, they're not me.

How lucky we are to live in a country where we have the choice to have a c sec if we wish for whatever reason, how lucky we are to live in a country where we don't get left to die in an emergency situation during childbirth, how lucky we are to live in a country where we don't get billed $20k to have the baby.

It's truly pathetic that anyone thinks they're any better than the next. We are all humans, we all want the same thing out of birth which is a healthy baby. Grow the fuck up.

Complete bullshit. Getting baby out, healthy and safe is the priority. Doesn't matter how. No one gives out medals for birth. I had one VB and am in awe of those who had a CS.

I had a c-section because baby was breach and hadn't grown between scans so they thought that trying to turn her was too risky when there might be a placenta problem and they wanted her out ASAP.

I am very happy the Dr's suggested that because I have a healthy baby and who knows what would be happened otherwise

BUT I wouldn't say I had 'given birth' to me it feels like she was born but I didn't 'birth' her.

Maybe that is what some people mean by not a real birth and they aren't trying to be critical of people who've had c-sections?

Whatever the intention its a silly thing to focus on as how you parent your baby is so much more important than how theyre brought into this world

Get off of FB

Well I've had a vaginal birth and then the c section and I consider the vaginal birth the 'easiest' and least painful of the 2.c section was so so much more painful and recoverytook so much longer too,can't get more real than that

The first time I saw one of those posts it wasn't long after birthing my second child (failed VBAC), it was a bit upsetting tbh. But hey, there will always be stupid people. I've since seen mothers rag on vaginal births by saying things like 'at least my vagina wasn't stretched out/isn't loose' (🙄), 'you haven't experienced child birth until you've done it unmedicated' and other equally idiotic statements.

Sometimes it's a one-up attempt by a loser whose biggest achievement is the way they birthed their child... Sometimes it's deliberately to spark outrage either for attention or interaction.

I've never been shamed, but I did do a hypnobirthing course before having my first child which was definitely anti-section (and anti-intervention, really). Fortunately I couldn't bring myself to take it all that seriously, so when my birth ended up having a lot of interventions and then ultimately a section, I wasn't fussed. But if I'd really taken the course to heart, I think I'd have been pretty upset about it.

As far as I can see how you give birth, vaginally or through a c section is a win win situation if you end up with a healthy baby and you're more or less okay.

Not sure why anyone takes any notice of the bell end earth mother's who say any different.

I've had 2 c sections and no vaginal births. I've had a couple of comments in real life, I just laughed and told them to get over themselves, dickheads. I carried them for 9m and have kept them alive for 21 and 17 years so far, the few hours taken to birth them really are inconsequential.

I'm not in UK but people still talked about me 'not having a birth experience' after having an emergency C section as babies head could not move.
So sadly not just a UK thing.
My obstetrician said we (mothers when giving birth) should take pain relief. Not to refuse just because it was not an option years ago. She said ' would you have your tooth removed without pain relief just because that happened last century?" She convinced me it was not a badge of honour to refuse and a healthy mum and baby is the best outcome regardless of technique.

This C section vs vaginal birth is shit and should not be a competition.

This stupidity has been going on for years. Remember celebrities being sneered at as “too posh to push” when they had sections?

I’ve read your posts @RamsayEaster and what I see is someone with no clue how birth can go or the reasons why someone may chose a section for their first birth, who makes with your snide too posh to push nasty comments and making comments about breastfeeding. So really a sanctimonious, nasty person who exactly proves the question the op asked - yes these idiots do walk among us. 🙄

can I ask if you’d say other nasty comments that have been ‘around for years’ such as racist or homophobic comments or it’s just ones that bash women you think are still acceptable?

Two c sections here . One emergency and one elective .

There were some snide comments here and there but pah, who gives a fuck. My babies were healthy and that was all and is I am concerned about.

It’s also a win win that my fanny is still intact and reasonably honeymoon fresh 😉

Again... can some people not see that the intact Fanny comments are just as judgemental as the comments they are complaining about?

I've had a natural water birth and a planned c-section. When I tell people I had a c-section they always have a look which I can only describe as a mix of pity/disappointment/disgust 😂 and then without fail they ask 'why?'

Having done both I would say the natural birth is harder and recovery/getting your body back is easier and with the c-section the actual procedure and experience was easier and more positive but fuck me, 8 weeks on I can't lose any weight for some reason and have had cold after cold since having her. The recovery is savage.

@RamsayEaster ... NICE guidelines are the NHS guidelines. As I said earlier, they do recommend maternal choice c section.

So not sure what guidelines you think say it's not recommended. Perhaps you could post the link so I can take a look. I'd be interested to know where the guidelines came from and the reasons why.

We will just use anything to try to bring each other down won't we?
A pregnancy that ends in a healthy baby and mother is a success no matter how the baby comes out.
Would I choose a section if I had more kids? Absolutely not, but that's because I watched my sister recovering from hers and it was brutal. She's a much stronger woman than I am.

The natural birth movement is too idealistic at best and downright dangerous at worst.

Someone told me that if you had painkillers such as pethidine in labour your child is more likely to be addicted to heroin.I call bollocks.
I had a c section after 2 days of labour...I insisted on it. I was made to feel bad by other women.

This awful competition between mothers is another reason why I'm one and done!

Honestly the older you get and the older your kids get you really don’t care. It’s a distant memory for most of us. Most of it is down to luck anyway.

You clearly define “mothering” as “martyrdom to the service of some very outdated ideal that women need to suffer to be considered adequate parents”. Most of us moved past this when we evolved for this century.

I agree. One if the reasons I had an elective c section with my third was due to how injured I got during my vbac with my second. It's not nice to think that anyone is smugly comparing their honeymoon fresh vagina to another woman's. I had a forceps delivery which resulted in a tear so severe that I needed a blood transfusion. They spent an hour stitching me up and I ended up with a prolapse. It's not nice when women make these comments to make themselves feel better. I've had vaginal and caesarian deliveries and think each case is unique and for the woman and her consultant to decide how to get the baby out. It's nobody's business.

I have given birth with only gas and air for pain relief and it resulted in a bad second degree tear which required surgery afterwards. My second was an emergency c section. The recovery from the c section was alot worse. I could barely get out of bed or use the bathroom for days afterwards. I had to get my mum to help me get washed and dressed. I look more positively on the vaginal birth than the c section. I thought it was the easier option until I had a c section, it's not the recovery is awful. I also found having the c section a little traumatic aswell.