C-section not real birth

[Washingforweeks]

I was just scrollling through Facebook and saw a post about women getting shamed for c-sections. I’ve had 3 vaginal births never a c section so I have never personally experienced this kind of…. Well wtf is it…. Ridiculousness. Is this genuinely a real thing?? Are there women out there being shamed for having c-sections? If so Jesus Christ. Seriously?!

It was so much better for me. It was wonderful.

DEFO ignorance.

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Incidentally it was better for my baby too, as I had Group B Strep. 🤷‍♀️

@PrettyMaybug

Jealousy about what

That I had two easy births and brought my two kids into the world the most natural way without the intervention of surgery
I count myself extremely lucky

Yes, and it appears to be preventing you from seeing or understanding that not every woman has that, nor wants to gamble on getting it.

It’s not really anything to do with you what we do or do not do with our vaginas, so maybe pop off to bed like you were going to.

While pregnant and facing a section I read an NHS leaflet stating that some women have to have a c section through no fault of their own. I was amazed by the implication that their could ever be a question of women at fault in this matter.

You shouldn't have made that off the cuff joke. Not on at all.

It’s always the people who haven’t had a c section that trot out the old “it’s major surgery” line isn’t. Really? I hadn’t noticed they’d sliced me open and rummaged around between my organs. Had no idea that was what happened when I chose it the second time, silly little me not doing my research. Good job there’s always someone who’s read about it to remind us all on mumsnet.

But yeah, that major surgery was definitely better for me and DD1, what with keeping us alive and whatnot. And so that meant it was better for me and DD2 too. We might have been fine trying for a vaginal delivery, we’ll never know. But as we both came out of the major surgery happy, healthy, calm, with an instant bond and no negative side effects at all I don’t really care.

Same for me and all the women I know who have had C-sections. A much, much better experience than many women I know, who had 'natural' births. The recovery is much better, the sex lives went back to normal quickly, and their figures went back to normal fairly quickly. Also, a lower rate of PND. (And everything intact if you know what I mean..........)

No, not trying to scare monger for 'natural' birth, just stating facts in my experience and that of many women In know. Some people really, really don't like to hear that many women who had C sections had an fairly easy time - and are much happier than some women who had natural births do they?! Quite depressing really, that they really want people who had a C-section to have suffered. Quite unpleasant, really, isn't it?

Elective C-sections are available. Some women will take them. Get over it.

@Upsadiddles

Of course it’s a lottery about how ur birth will go and I extremely lucky that I had easy ones

When I gave birth in 2004/2008
I never considered having a c section ( it wasn’t offered as an option )equally though if my birth didn’t go to plans and for the health of myself and baby I wouldn’t have not considered a c section

It seems nowadays that it is an option , it just wouldn’t be one I would have had as my first option unless medically necessary

When I had my children I had a very wide circle of friends who had their children around the same time over 1-4 years and I can honestly say that three were never any kind of prejudice about how we gave birth! My friends came from mixed backgrounds and how we birthed just wasn’t a thing…am baffled why it is such a thing on MN 🤷‍♀️

I don't actually know anyone who had an awful C section, whose baby suffered remotely because of it or who had trauma or long term problems. And I know lots of people who have had them.

I cannot say the same about 'natural' birth.

I would personally prefer to have major surgery and so would most obgyns, apparently. I don't have the link to that though.

Four sections, clearly never given birth.

Can’t believe there’s a woman on here who said she demanded a c section as she thought it was the easy option (no medical reason). And also didn’t breastfeed because she couldn’t be bothered.

Strange ain't it?! In real life, nobody cares, nobody is angry, and nobody bothers.... But on Mumsnet, the women who've had vaginal births seem to be really, really upset and offended if women have C-Sections. And Very, very angry and furious especially, if other women had ELECTIVE C sections. Really bothers them LOL!

@PrettyMaybug @Ithurtsthebackofmyeyes

This debate has made my night 😂

Jesus, why is it a competition?

I'm sorry to you if you had a terrible natural birth. I'm sorry if you ended up having an unplanned section.

You all gave birth. There is no easy way to do it.

Bless.

Really? Ok. So long as you learned something.

RamsayEaster and that’s absolutely fine. Like I said, I never considered it an option for myself either, until suddenly it was my only option. Then it very much was an option the second time too.

No one is saying that we should all have c sections. People are taking issue with the fact that a couple of your later posts come across aa judgmental and imply you think it is the wrong option unless it’s absolutely necessary (you perhaps didn’t mean them to, but they did). Sometimes it isn’t absolutely medically necessary but a women’s previous birth/life experiences or attitude to risk mean it is still the right option for her.

So sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter. I know of two families who have suffered similarly, one in the UK and one in Australia. Both babies (both daughters) were born after unreasonably prolonged labours (in which at least one was down to ‘natural birth’ ideology), and both suffered severe CP due to oxygen deprivation, one eventually dying in her early teens, having needed intensive one-to-one care all her short life.

It makes me furious that this can happen in developed countries because ideology is put ahead of good evidence based practice. If this was cost cutting, it was catastrophically short-sighted. The pennies pinched in attempting to avoid C-sections have had to be paid many times over in medical and social care, and the damage done to those families will never be repaired.

My DCs (now 21 and 19) were both born by C-section and I remain profoundly grateful to have had them alive and healthy.

@CountingMareep

My DCs (now 21 and 19) were both born by C-section and I remain profoundly grateful to have had them alive and healthy.

Same here. First DC born by emergency C-section ... Not going into the whole story, but c-section was needed. Second one born by elective C-section after what happened the first time.