Sainsburys now doing nectar price

[Whateveryouwant1]

I've never really liked tesco club card prices because if you forget your club card you have to change your shopping habits for that shop and now sainsburys have followed suit with nectar prices!
Why can't supermarkets just either be price effective or just do deals like before? Can't stand this it'll be £8.10 without your nectar card or £4 with! Give me strength and reasonable prices ffs!

Of course. But there's a difference between people choosing to have a loyalty card for points/vouchers, knowing they will be sharing their data with the company, and being almost compelled to sign up to a loyalty card in order to get the cheaper prices. And not everyone has an Aldi or lidl nearby or can drive to different supermarkets.( I completely agree with you about Waitrose)

NOTHING is free! Wake up!

Yep and I always forget to use the Smartshop thing. Partner uses it religiously to avoid checkouts but if I'm with him we also seem to get randomly stopped. I'm probably chucking things in the trolley and forgetting to swipe them.

Can anyone who has a problem with companies getting their data explain why?
I don't get it

For one, I go to multiple different supermarkets so am sceptical about the amount of useful data they could glean from me anyway - I don't see how the fact that I occasionally buy x amounts of semi skimmed from tesco could be of any real use in terms of data collection when I don't buy it in any particular quantities or regularity (because I also buy milk from aldi, Sainsburies, lidl etc at other times)

Secondly even if I did do all my shopping at one place and they could work out exactly how often I bought milk and what type....so what? Why should I care? Its not exactly incriminating is it?

If it's no real use to them, why would they be bothering with collecting it at all?

Apart from valuing privacy in its own right, the ability to profile users and user types is a step towards personalised pricing (which already exists online, in some scenarios).

The old saying: if you are not paying for the product then it's you that is the product.

On Mumsnet, people are very quick to tell everyone how they can comply with whatever new horrible thing a company or government is doing.

I prefer to say "no" to things like this that I don't like and can avoid. Also, the last time I went to Sainsburys for a few things, there was 1 till on with a huge queue. They expected everyone to self serve. No, I don't need you to tell me how to use one. I'll just shop elsewhere - like I mainly do already.

I'm saying that you're quoting this oft-repeated hoary old story about "how powerful data-led marketing is" to make out that data-led marketing is an invasion of privacy.

Umm, no I didn’t @LordEmsworth. I shared an interesting article. Maybe go back and re-read?

I'm similar to you, we mostly shop in Aldi, but occasionally go to any supermarket and have loyalty cards for most of them, including the much maligned M&S Sparks card, which I've had quite a lot of freebies from as it happens. Quite a lot of fruit and bread, plus candles and other nick nacks.

So the amount of points we get from any is minimal, I do currently have over £50 of Nectar points, but most of those are due to eBay and fuel, almost none on groceries from Sainsburys. I'm just waiting for them to bring back the November double up promotion so I can get all my Christmas fizz using it. If they don't do that, I'll finally give in and buy normal groceries with them, but it's a case of who blinks first between me and them right now.

But I expect that they're not after people like us, who only ever shop in Tesco a few times a year to stock up on things that are on offer and bits that aren't ludicrously expensive compared with Aldi. They want families to do their big shop there each week and will use all sorts of smoke and mirrors to try and convince them that they're the cheapest/the best quality/the widest range etc.

Agreed, lots of the price increases followed weeks later by a discount is very shady indeed. Especially since the cost of the products is rising anyway or so we are told, it is hard to keep track now and I am certain there is blatant profiteering going on taking advantage of the situation. I've seen things like coffee bounce around so much in price that the now discounted price is the full price of the product 18months ago. I can't keep up and if they are tracking my data I hope they notice that if something I usually buy is artificially priced outrageously high in advance of a discount I will not be buying it.

For people saying "put it in the app on your phone", Tesco twice now have updated their app so that when I tried to open it in the store it wouldnt open because they'd decided to "retire" it and use a new app instead.

I just have the club card in my phone wallet

We Clubcard holders give Tesco loads of data about our data shopping habits, which is worth millions.

Why on earth should non Clubcard holders benefit from the low prices?

I don't get the big deal, I have the Clubcard fob card saved on my keychain and in my iPhone wallet.

I also have the Asda and Morrisons apps on my phone. I don't have a Nectar card but I'll just add it to my apps on my phone.

Nothing is free in this world.

So just download the new app? It took 1 minute.

You know that supermarkets have always used "tricks" to get you spending, even to where they physically place things on shelves? I'm happy for them to track my shopping and target my discounts and vouchers because it saves me money, it really does.

Did you miss the bit where I mentioned not agreeing with the scheme?

I happen to not give a shit if they have my data. You do, that's great. I'm only concerned about how much my shopping costs, I don't have the mental capacity to worry about everyone else at the moment.

*other people not agreeing with it

It drives me spare too. Especially when splitting with ex and it’s another 12 bastard things to remember to change over to new email etc etc.

Just tell me your best price or fuck off.

No, I don't think so.

Just checked and to take a few examples:

Heinz baked beans 415g - 95p at Sainsbury's with a Nectar card / £1.40 at Asda.

Napolina Chopped Tomatoes 4x400g - £2.25 Sainsbury's Nectar price / £3.00 at Asda

Kellogg's Frosties 470g- £2.50 Sainsbury's Nectar price / £3.30 at Asda

I don't give a shit about my data - I just want to save money on my food bill, so thanks to the OP for this thread as I didn't know about this thing they've started and so I'll be going to Sainsbury's more from now on.

I can see all this data is valuable for companies, as most of my supermarket shopping is online via Morrisons and Ocado I guess I am giving them that data for no discount, more fool me.

I occasionally visit a Sainsbos so I'm undecided if I will get a Nectar.

I've read it, and other versions of it. Many times before. Mostly after I found out that it's not actually a true story. It is an interesting story, that was why I reacted to it. I did assume you'd shared it in order to express the moral of this fable, be careful with your data!

And actually I agree, "be careful with your data" is a good message. It's an excellent message in fact, and everyone should be aware of how their data might be used. Just, it would be nice if we didn't have to pretend that a father "angrily confronted" a Target store manager because of the accuracy of Target's amazing marketing, in order to take that message seriously...

It's a trade off. Completely fair

Tesco stopped getting my custom because of this over inflation of prices. I guess I'll be doing the same for Sainsbury's too!

I hate shopping at Tesco because of the club card prices and that’s why tend to use sainsburys- think will be Lidl and Aldi from now!

Why the fuck are you buying Heinz if you want to save on your food bill?!